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I am a Linux developer and contributor for a few decades and the code of conduct simply killed any interest in contributing to it. It won't take long until backdoors are introduced on Linux. Activists that joined the community for money will have full control and the ability of banning any criticism. We really need Linus back.
I am a Linux developer and contributor for a few decades and the code of conduct simply killed any interest in contributing to it. It won't take long until backdoors are introduced on Linux. Activists that joined the community for money will have full control and the ability of banning any criticism. We really need Linus back.
Can't the kernel just be forked by people who don't like this CoC?
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Can't the kernel just be forked by people who don't like this CoC?
Presumably they realize that it would be an unproductive dead end next to the original, and don’t want to become a subject of mockery. They want to make noise and rattle their cages, and that’s where their commitment ends. It’s hard to see this extended reaction to something that is at the end of the day incredibly common and banal, as more than trying to suck up the air of publicity while its fresh. After all, peopl…
I also don't think this rejection of PC culture is as silly and as small of a movement as you think. But time will tell.
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Presumably they realize that it would be an unproductive dead end next to the original, and don’t want to become a subject of mockery. They want to make noise and rattle their cages, and that’s where their commitment ends. It’s hard to see this extended reaction to something that is at the end of the day incredibly common and banal, as more than trying to suck up the air of publicity while its fresh. After all, peopl…
It's ironic that you think the reason they don't want to create an environment to avoid using a CoC that prohibits mockery is that they are afraid of being mocked. I also don't think this rejection of PC culture is as silly and as small of a movement as you think. But time will tell.
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It's ironic that you think the reason they don't want to create an environment to avoid using a CoC that prohibits mockery is that they are afraid of being mocked. I also don't think this rejection of PC culture is as silly and as small of a movement as you think. But time will tell.
Yeah, time will tell, although to be fair the same was said incessantly by the likes of GamerGate and they’ve just been folded into the larger alt-right and forgotten by most. In a sense, time has already told, and at the end of the day nobody has time for the petulant who frame everything in terms of “sjw’s” and basic human decency as “PC culture.” Tragically that group (having a surfeit of free time) is excellent a…
How about not taking the term I used, "PC culture", and using it to passive aggressively disparage me as someone petulant who frame everything in terms of "sjw's"? (the term "sjw" in quotes although I never wrote that, but assuredly, this is how you believe I think.)
Yes, gamer gate settled down, because the media couldn't keep a controversy going and generate clicks forever. But this is not what I'm talking about. It's people like me, other developers, and now the developers of the linux kernel as well speaking up and trying to reign in this insanity, which you seem blind to.
Yea, so I don't believe that your conclusion that this is just a flash in the pan, and will be forgotten in the historical context, is correct, but instead just further evidence that the pot is starting to boil, and will eventually be the beginning of actual correction to this high-handed bullshit that we have been fed from those supporting crap like this CoC.
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> Any open source project that gains enough traction to require a proper governance model has adopted a code of conduct. That sentence probably needs some adjustment for time dependence. There were plenty of open source projects with proper governance models in the 90s (e.g. GNU, Debian) but AFAIK CoCs are a relatively recent thing.
Well, sure. But a governance model that relies on a couple of hundred self-policing contributors needs to evolve with scale, right?
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It's ironic that you think the reason they don't want to create an environment to avoid using a CoC that prohibits mockery is that they are afraid of being mocked. I also don't think this rejection of PC culture is as silly and as small of a movement as you think. But time will tell.
Yeah, time will tell, although to be fair the same was said incessantly by the likes of GamerGate and they’ve just been folded into the larger alt-right and forgotten by most. In a sense, time has already told, and at the end of the day nobody has time for the petulant who frame everything in terms of “sjw’s” and basic human decency as “PC culture.” Tragically that group (having a surfeit of free time) is excellent a…
CoC encourages harrassment through doxing and witch-hunts. It actually has the opposite effect. You were rude to me on a bug tracker? I'll dox you and find something you said 5 years ago which is offensive and report it to the committee to get you banned.
This is the CoC that many projects subscribe to: https://www.contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4/code-of-con... The relevant snippet is here: -------- Examples of unacceptable behavior by participants include: The use of sexualized language or imagery and unwelcome sexual attention or advances Trolling, insulting/derogatory comments, and personal or political attacks Public or private harassment Publishing others’ p…
> Not a corporate-approved kangaroo court. Is this really what happened? To me it appeared like a bunch of Linus's close friends told him he was acting like a jerk, and he agreed. Building this into some kind of global movement out to punish wrongthink smacks of conspiracy theory to me.
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That approach is called “Enumerating Badness”, and is known to never completely work.
It doesn't need to be perfect, as long as there are no false positives and few valse negatives.