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Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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IIRC, Firefox did that once , and then apologized. Unlike Google, who keeps doing the same thing all the time.

Well, there is that joke extension from recently, and then there is installing qwent (or whatever it was) for all German users by default.

It was Cliqz.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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I tried to switch to Firefox lately after this new speedy version had been released. I really underestimated how good Chromium is. Basic stuff, like in page search(Ctrl+F) is awful after Chromium experience. Resistance to copying omni-bar is silly. Crashes every day. The UX is bad compared to Chromium. Spent month dealing with it and just abandoned this endeavor. Really sad, i want Firefox to be better.

"Resistance to copying omni-bar"? It seems to work OK for me. What are you trying to do and how does Firefox resist it? "Crashes every day"? I can't remember the last time I had a Firefox crash; maybe this is OS-dependent. (I use it on Windows and on FreeBSD; how about you?) "The UX is bad compared to Chromium" -- obviously if you're used to one program's UX then another's may seem obtuse. What about the Firefox UX i…

>Resistance to copying omni-bar

I think he was referring to the fact that Mozilla is still unsure about unifying the address and search bars. They only show an unified bar on fresh profiles, IIRC. What he thinks is wrong with keeping distinct bars, besides being different from Chrome, I don't know.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Coming back to iOS from Android can be painful - there's too much "you're holding it wrong" mentality in the platform and its UX. If your use cases fit the design, everything's great. The moment they don't, it's extremely frustrating. (This is very similar to Windows vs macOS, by the way.)

> (This is very similar to Windows vs macOS, by the way.) And very similar to Linux vs. Windows for that matter. :)

Indeed! I find that the degree of customizability that Windows allows to be more than sufficient for my needs; but I have no doubt that there are people who have different needs that are not accommodated.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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But for an SEO like me, I will really get a hard time dropping google as it still control almost the powerful SERPFs in the net. Will still find better ways and start re-evaluating things as an alternative, anyone here with suggestion will be very much welcome and appreciated. cheeky moves. Might as well just use it doing business related things and use firefox as personal browser.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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It seems to me like you provided no arguments how is login-into-browser feature clarifying things. You even mentioned people being _confused_ about it. People don't need to understand oauth to use it. (and before you pull that one again - I am supporting technically-illiterate people quite often)

It would be a world of simplicity if I logged into the browser with my google account, a little picture of myself showed in the top right corner of the browser chrome (instead of in various places in different apps), and that identity is what was used for per-app Google auth. I should also mention, there's another place it gets used - in Chrome extensions. That should use the same identity. Google login then becomes…

> I should also mention, there's another place it gets used - in Chrome extensions. That should use the same identity.

That's actually good use case for the browser login feature. (when one is using some google-acc-connected extension)

But for ordinary users I don't think this solution would work flawlessly, because it is different than ones before (and users learn new things slowly).

However if that would be the actual implementation (force logging everywhere into the same acc) I agree it would be simpler for end-users. But it is not, therefore original point (browser login is confusing people) still stands. And therefore teaching users to rely on it does not seem like a good idea.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Abusing users isn't OK just because they've found additional ways to extract money from users. Disclaimer: I was a Google fanboy until a few years ago and I disliked but trusted Google until a couple of weeks ago. Now I don't know what to do but at least I've finally got around to switching my search habits.

Oh I agree, absolutely not. I'm against Google and don't use their software. I just thought that the parent comment wasn't very accurate as it characterized Apple as selling apps and media and Google as doing neither of those things.

Sorry I misunderstood your original comment :-|

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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I have been a Firefox user for years. I have realized that in spite of it being more open, it is absolutely necessary to keep up to date with what Mozilla is up to. E.g. came across this today - https://blog.ungleich.ch/en-us/cms/blog/2018/08/04/mozillas-...

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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It would be a world of simplicity if I logged into the browser with my google account, a little picture of myself showed in the top right corner of the browser chrome (instead of in various places in different apps), and that identity is what was used for per-app Google auth. I should also mention, there's another place it gets used - in Chrome extensions. That should use the same identity. Google login then becomes…

> I should also mention, there's another place it gets used - in Chrome extensions. That should use the same identity. That's actually good use case for the browser login feature. (when one is using some google-acc-connected extension) But for ordinary users I don't think this solution would work flawlessly, because it is different than ones before (and users learn new things slowly). However if that would be the act…

I realized that Chrome now (M69) forces the forced-logging-in solution (not sure, cannot test atm). Then my post is mostly moot (can't edit already), and for simple-users is this change probably good.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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No, but most everyone at Google is in a position to be financially responsible and put aside a bit of money each paycheck for emergencies and/or decisions like this.

Not really. People could be in debt, people could be taking care of their parents or other family members. You are making a lot of assumptions because you think everyone who works at Google is rich.

I was mostly just assuming that people at Google have a relatively stable job, which is really all you need to start being financially responsible and do things like set any amount of money aside each month, not live paycheck to paycheck, slowly cut out unnecessary expenditures, etc.

To bring things back to the ancestor comment this was all responding to: people who can't leave a job because they're relying on a paycheck are definitely less powerful when it comes to being able to take a stand and make change at that job. People who are able to rely less on a paycheck have a bit more of a cushion in this area (especially when they have some savings for e.g. doctors, car problems, etc, and have enough set aside to find another job before those savings run out).

Anyone can put a % of their paycheck aside each month to become more financially independent. Whether they're at Google or not doesn't really matter here -- but, it is probably a bit more likely that an engineer at Google might be able to put aside a little bit more than a grocer at Target (and, is probably more capable of finding another job faster).

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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What phone are you replacing Android with? 'cause Apple isn't much better, Windows phone is dead, and Blackberry...

Apple is much better. You can also install a custom rom.

apple marketing sells you the idea that they are much better... sad that even people here fall for that.

10% of their monster revenue is selling your data to advertiser backchannels.

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