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IIRC, Firefox did that once , and then apologized. Unlike Google, who keeps doing the same thing all the time.
Well, there is that joke extension from recently, and then there is installing qwent (or whatever it was) for all German users by default.
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I tried to switch to Firefox lately after this new speedy version had been released. I really underestimated how good Chromium is. Basic stuff, like in page search(Ctrl+F) is awful after Chromium experience. Resistance to copying omni-bar is silly. Crashes every day. The UX is bad compared to Chromium. Spent month dealing with it and just abandoned this endeavor. Really sad, i want Firefox to be better.
"Resistance to copying omni-bar"? It seems to work OK for me. What are you trying to do and how does Firefox resist it? "Crashes every day"? I can't remember the last time I had a Firefox crash; maybe this is OS-dependent. (I use it on Windows and on FreeBSD; how about you?) "The UX is bad compared to Chromium" -- obviously if you're used to one program's UX then another's may seem obtuse. What about the Firefox UX i…
I think he was referring to the fact that Mozilla is still unsure about unifying the address and search bars. They only show an unified bar on fresh profiles, IIRC. What he thinks is wrong with keeping distinct bars, besides being different from Chrome, I don't know.
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Coming back to iOS from Android can be painful - there's too much "you're holding it wrong" mentality in the platform and its UX. If your use cases fit the design, everything's great. The moment they don't, it's extremely frustrating. (This is very similar to Windows vs macOS, by the way.)
> (This is very similar to Windows vs macOS, by the way.) And very similar to Linux vs. Windows for that matter. :)
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It seems to me like you provided no arguments how is login-into-browser feature clarifying things. You even mentioned people being _confused_ about it. People don't need to understand oauth to use it. (and before you pull that one again - I am supporting technically-illiterate people quite often)
It would be a world of simplicity if I logged into the browser with my google account, a little picture of myself showed in the top right corner of the browser chrome (instead of in various places in different apps), and that identity is what was used for per-app Google auth. I should also mention, there's another place it gets used - in Chrome extensions. That should use the same identity. Google login then becomes…
That's actually good use case for the browser login feature. (when one is using some google-acc-connected extension)
But for ordinary users I don't think this solution would work flawlessly, because it is different than ones before (and users learn new things slowly).
However if that would be the actual implementation (force logging everywhere into the same acc) I agree it would be simpler for end-users. But it is not, therefore original point (browser login is confusing people) still stands. And therefore teaching users to rely on it does not seem like a good idea.
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Abusing users isn't OK just because they've found additional ways to extract money from users. Disclaimer: I was a Google fanboy until a few years ago and I disliked but trusted Google until a couple of weeks ago. Now I don't know what to do but at least I've finally got around to switching my search habits.
Oh I agree, absolutely not. I'm against Google and don't use their software. I just thought that the parent comment wasn't very accurate as it characterized Apple as selling apps and media and Google as doing neither of those things.
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#838Earlier quoted context omitted.
It would be a world of simplicity if I logged into the browser with my google account, a little picture of myself showed in the top right corner of the browser chrome (instead of in various places in different apps), and that identity is what was used for per-app Google auth. I should also mention, there's another place it gets used - in Chrome extensions. That should use the same identity. Google login then becomes…
> I should also mention, there's another place it gets used - in Chrome extensions. That should use the same identity. That's actually good use case for the browser login feature. (when one is using some google-acc-connected extension) But for ordinary users I don't think this solution would work flawlessly, because it is different than ones before (and users learn new things slowly). However if that would be the act…
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No, but most everyone at Google is in a position to be financially responsible and put aside a bit of money each paycheck for emergencies and/or decisions like this.
Not really. People could be in debt, people could be taking care of their parents or other family members. You are making a lot of assumptions because you think everyone who works at Google is rich.
To bring things back to the ancestor comment this was all responding to: people who can't leave a job because they're relying on a paycheck are definitely less powerful when it comes to being able to take a stand and make change at that job. People who are able to rely less on a paycheck have a bit more of a cushion in this area (especially when they have some savings for e.g. doctors, car problems, etc, and have enough set aside to find another job before those savings run out).
Anyone can put a % of their paycheck aside each month to become more financially independent. Whether they're at Google or not doesn't really matter here -- but, it is probably a bit more likely that an engineer at Google might be able to put aside a little bit more than a grocer at Target (and, is probably more capable of finding another job faster).
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What phone are you replacing Android with? 'cause Apple isn't much better, Windows phone is dead, and Blackberry...
Apple is much better. You can also install a custom rom.
10% of their monster revenue is selling your data to advertiser backchannels.