Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

Post by ascorbic » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 6:04 AM UTC

lern_too_spel wrote: post #159

fermienrico wrote: post #117

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I feel like integrating auto sign in, tracking and Google cookies is less of a disorganized decision and more of a premeditated, carefully snuck in effort for their ads business. All the stars align for the bottom line. Just look at the state of Android. Try being a cell phone OEM who wants to use Android but without Google integration. Impossible.

> Try being a cell phone OEM who wants to use Android but without Google integration. Impossible. Tell that to Vivo, Oppo, Honor, Huawei, Xiaomi, Meizu, OnePlus, Lenovo, Qiku, Smartisan, Amazon, etc.

Post by justinclift » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 6:10 AM UTC

ggm wrote: post #85

One positive, is that the response was fast and direct. In the past, negative user feedback has tended to be buried, or felt like it, or ignored, or felt like it. This time, somebody decided the only clean path out was to be responsive: to make changes which reflected community concern and to tell people about them Which I think, is good. I vastly prefer the google which tells people it listened, to the one which say…

Post by ssutch3 » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 6:12 AM UTC

seibelj wrote: post #16

dannyw wrote: post #12

I have already switched to Firefox and loving it (Facebook container, tracking protection enabled), but these changes are welcome and responsive. I hope this is a wake up call that privacy implications need to be seriously considered during product design (even if the intent was better UX), and hidden changes without any UI/notice is going to make issues blow up far more than if there was clear in-app communication.

I did as well. DuckDuckGo, ublock origin, privacy badger. I haven’t used Firefox seriously in 5 years or so and I’m very pleased with the experience. To be honest, it’s best to use an independent company for your internet browser. Google’s incentives and business model no longer matches web browsing for someone who cares about privacy.

Post by daveFNbuck » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 6:14 AM UTC

reificator wrote: post #221

daveFNbuck wrote: post #209

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If they hadn't perma-stored the cookies, we'd all be pointing out how stupid it is that clearing your cookies logs you out of the browser. This would be clear evidence of what a stupid idea it is to match browser sign-in state to your cookies. There'd probably be a blog post about how Chrome 70 will automatically create fresh Google cookies to keep you logged in to the browser after you delete them.

> There'd probably be a blog post about how Chrome 70 will automatically create fresh Google cookies to keep you logged in to the browser after you delete them. Maybe I'm just being pedantic and there's no real-world difference, but I'm a little more okay with the browser creating new cookies whenever they're cleared vs not clearing cookies when asked. Not entirely okay with it, mind you. Especially since browser log…

Post by eudora » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 6:18 AM UTC

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #90

eudora wrote: post #60

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Hang on. The logical thing to do, if your real aim is to have browser sign in state reflect cookie state, is to sign out the browser when someone clears their cookies. That would make total sense to users. I think this is clear evidence that Google made this change to keep more users signed into Google so they can collect more of your data without telling you.

The article says that is exactly what they are going to do now: when you clear all cookies, you will be signed out.