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Product Updates Based on Your Feedback
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#42This is not attempting to fit user needs, this is an attempt to put out a PR fire and salvage quarterly earnings. I'm still leaving, maybe even more-so because of the false heartfelt "ok let's do it your way". I will not be patronized, we're not on the same team anymore.
Adam Smith: "It is not from the benevolence (kindness) of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest." Regardless of motivation (which is ultimately unknowable), is the tangible response from Google adequate?
Google didn't used to be in the business of collecting every byte of metadata as sneakily as possible to earn every possible cent of ad revenue; times have changed.
Furthermore, this is not one mistake. This is the loudest and most obvious mistake in a trail of increasingly adversarial moves.
Maybe Google's bottom line will go up, but it won't be with me, or with anyone I know if I can help it.
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#43Why does it take a damn backlash from users to get Google and Facebook to behave? Just because it's legal doesn't means it's ethical.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand, the piece looks like it promises to address all the problems highlighted in the past few days in Chrome 70. Why are you saying it is a PR piece?
The problems were easily foreseeable, and they did it anyway. Anyone who accepts this as "listening the users", and addressing the issues will likely get burned again in the future. Google is a advertising company. Their customers are not their users, and therefore I think things are unlikely to change.
Also, it represents a culture shift. Many engs and mgrs have moved on, retired, jumped to new shinies (when FB, Uber, Twitter, etc became the new shiny) allowing a culture shift via replacement with people who have a different compass guiding them.
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#45This is not attempting to fit user needs, this is an attempt to put out a PR fire and salvage quarterly earnings. I'm still leaving, maybe even more-so because of the false heartfelt "ok let's do it your way". I will not be patronized, we're not on the same team anymore.
Adam Smith: "It is not from the benevolence (kindness) of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest." Regardless of motivation (which is ultimately unknowable), is the tangible response from Google adequate?
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#46I have no doubt this is a direct result of the feedback in the hacker news thread. Googlers read our comments and take them seriously when there is true merit. Keep making noise folks, it matters.
Agreed. Now: does Mozilla read these? I tried to switch to Firefox, but was stymied by a bug where Firefox consumes 100%+ CPU on MacBook Pro Retinas. Firefox is basically unusable with this bug; Facebook takes forever to load, and even Reddit r/firefox shows "A webpage is slowing down your browser" bar at the top. Active relevant bugs are here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404042 https://bugzilla.moz…
Neither of those bugs have to do with 100% CPU on rMBP. Their about using an inefficient presentation path which increases GPU power usage. You can mitigate this today by setting gfx.compositor.glcontext.opaque to true. Further, Firefox Beta has additional texture upload performance improvements that will reduce cpu usage.
If you're actually experiencing 100% cpu usage, post a profile using https://perf-html.io/ and I can try tell you why.
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#47This is not attempting to fit user needs, this is an attempt to put out a PR fire and salvage quarterly earnings. I'm still leaving, maybe even more-so because of the false heartfelt "ok let's do it your way". I will not be patronized, we're not on the same team anymore.
I don't understand, the piece looks like it promises to address all the problems highlighted in the past few days in Chrome 70. Why are you saying it is a PR piece?
One thought might be that a company interested in making decisions based on customer feedback would consult those customers before making a change like this.
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#48I have no doubt this is a direct result of the feedback in the hacker news thread. Googlers read our comments and take them seriously when there is true merit. Keep making noise folks, it matters.
Agreed. Now: does Mozilla read these? I tried to switch to Firefox, but was stymied by a bug where Firefox consumes 100%+ CPU on MacBook Pro Retinas. Firefox is basically unusable with this bug; Facebook takes forever to load, and even Reddit r/firefox shows "A webpage is slowing down your browser" bar at the top. Active relevant bugs are here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404042 https://bugzilla.moz…
> Given rMBPs (I would think) would be a fairly large market share of people who work at Mozilla or use Firefox
Why?
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#49> We’re also going to change the way we handle the clearing of auth cookies. In the current version of Chrome, we keep the Google auth cookies to allow you to stay signed in after cookies are cleared. We will change this behavior that so all cookies are deleted and you will be signed out.
I really want to know who the internal champion was for getting the cookies to be perma-stored in the first place. It has to be someone relatively high up and I’m genuinely curious how high it goes.
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#50I have no doubt this is a direct result of the feedback in the hacker news thread. Googlers read our comments and take them seriously when there is true merit. Keep making noise folks, it matters.
Agreed. Now: does Mozilla read these? I tried to switch to Firefox, but was stymied by a bug where Firefox consumes 100%+ CPU on MacBook Pro Retinas. Firefox is basically unusable with this bug; Facebook takes forever to load, and even Reddit r/firefox shows "A webpage is slowing down your browser" bar at the top. Active relevant bugs are here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404042 https://bugzilla.moz…
It seems that nowadays Mozilla is interested in PR much more than the Firefox browser.
Every other day, there is some announcement or the other.