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Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by reitanqild »

murukesh_s wrote: post #328
ux-app wrote: post #26

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Yup, same. Switched to ff and bing. Was surprisingly frictionless. Next week I'll be off gmail too. Up yours google. The week after, I'm getting rid of my android phone. I'm a high school IT teacher and have some influence over hundreds of students each year. I've already started to sprinkle in some discussion about privacy and will be sure to inform my students about the issues. Of course I won't brow beat my studen…

Can we make this the top comment or something, so that google folks can see this!. I am sure HN is a good enough influencer for folks at Google to rethink!

Na, just let Google continue their non stop promotion campaign for alternative browsers and search engines :-)

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by reitanqild »

prolikewh0a wrote: post #569
taborj wrote: post #475

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What phone are you replacing Android with? 'cause Apple isn't much better, Windows phone is dead, and Blackberry...

I had an iPhone 6s+ for a year and couldn't stand the UI and poor ergonomic choices. I was also unable to do basic things easily like SSH without paying outlandish amounts of money for things similar to JuiceSSH. It's locked down in userspace much more than Android and it's noticeable. Things like unzipping/unraring files, using a file explorer, always had problems with downloaded files, etc were totally impossible.…

I've wanted to go back to a S40/candybar type device for a while. So far this has been vetoed by my wife who fears that I'll be even more disconnected since I'll then only have access to all messaging on the PC.

Anyone knows if Telegram/Signal etc exists for KaiOS or similar?

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by techntoke »

irrational wrote: post #647
bad_user wrote: post #590

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Everybody at Google, for anything they do, should ask a simple question on any proposal ... how does this impact user privacy for those that care? Given Google's size and power it's irresponsible for them to not do so. And given that there are really smart people working for Google, including a whole department working on analyzing the threats and preserving user privacy, I won't believe for a second that nobody thou…

You're kidding, right? Selling user privacy is how Google makes their money. Other than Facebook, there probably isn't a single company out there less interested in protecting user privacy.

Unless you use G Suite.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by LiterallyDoge »

bad_user wrote: post #590
Pxtl wrote: post #565

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I assume this is the engineering at work. "Okay, users are confused by how they're logged into Google but not Chrome, or Chrome but not Google - let's make them one and the same". "Okay, but once you're logged into Chrome now, every post we check to see if we have the Google cookies to keep that sync... so that means when you clear the cookies the Google ones will automagically reappear" "Ugh, let's just notify the u…

Everybody at Google, for anything they do, should ask a simple question on any proposal ... how does this impact user privacy for those that care? Given Google's size and power it's irresponsible for them to not do so. And given that there are really smart people working for Google, including a whole department working on analyzing the threats and preserving user privacy, I won't believe for a second that nobody thou…

Agree. It's just about respect. If you respect your users, it's clearly evident. Google doesn't.

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Post by mrguyorama »

czechdeveloper wrote: post #559
trophycase wrote: post #460

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Not really, gotta work for small businesses or start your own.

And those will be sold to evil corp later on or will do subcontractors for them. I do not see any escape.

If you start a small business and then do those things, then you can no longer blame other people; You are the immoral person

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Post by mrguyorama »

etatoby wrote: post #474
Elrac wrote: post #427

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That's from the gospel of the Libertarian Church of the Invisible Hand. This approach doesn't work in the real world because Google's consumers are neither perfectly informed nor perfectly rational. It also ignores the fact that major corporations can enlist the help of the US government in maintaining and extending their de facto monopolies.

Still, it's hard to argue that Google Chrome is a monopoly, when it's not even the default in most user OSs (the exceptions bring ChromeOS and some of the Android vendors.)

Is it not a de-facto default when the first thing many people do on the internet is hit Google.com and get prompted to download it?

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Post by lolc »

Grimm665 wrote: post #652
gjm11 wrote: post #601

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Do you mean Firefox doesn't have a way to return the zoom level to its default? (It has two; you can do ctrl-0 or you can click on the zoom-level indicator in the URL bar.) Or do you mean you can't tell it to default to a zoom level that isn't 100%? (That seems to be true.) I confess that's never a thing it's occurred to me to want; it feels like if I wanted every website's text to look larger or smaller, I'd probabl…

This has been a sticking point for me too when trying to transition to FF from Chrome. My main monitor is a 4k 24-inch, and at that pixel density, the Windows HiDPI scaling isn't always enough to get the text the correct size for comfortable viewing. For text-heavy sites like HN, Reddit, and Wikipedia, being able to set a default 125% zoom in the browser is very nice, while still being able to keep the default zoom f…

Works for me. I have Hacker News permanently zoomed-in with Firefox (nightly).

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Post by llukas »

darkcha0s wrote: post #308
braythwayt wrote: post #242

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There is a wikipedia page devoted to the argument that they were only doing their job: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders

Are you really comparing a software developer completing tickets based on requirements to Nazis being told to kill? The fact that you need to draw that comparison tells me you are going overboard.

Killing people on mass scale needs logistics. Software developer completing tickets fits in perfectly.

Example: Somebody did optimize train timetable so deaths camps have uninterrupted flow of victims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Eichmann

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Post by binomialxenon »

reitanqild wrote: post #659
binomialxenon wrote: post #654

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Google does make a ton of money from ads and tracking, but how do they not "sell software and media" too? They sell apps and media in the same manner that Apple does.

Abusing users isn't OK just because they've found additional ways to extract money from users. Disclaimer: I was a Google fanboy until a few years ago and I disliked but trusted Google until a couple of weeks ago. Now I don't know what to do but at least I've finally got around to switching my search habits.

Oh I agree, absolutely not. I'm against Google and don't use their software. I just thought that the parent comment wasn't very accurate as it characterized Apple as selling apps and media and Google as doing neither of those things.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by partiallypro »

s3r3nity wrote: post #578
Erlich_Bachman wrote: post #274

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Bing is nowhere near "(Just as good as G)". If it was, a lot more people would have already switched. As of now, it's surprisingly behind Google in almost all but the most basic searches.

I wouldn't leverage popularity of a service to correlate 100% with its competency - ESPECIALLY when it comes to tech. I think Bing has a marketing / brand problem, as it's been the punch-line of the joke for so long. I personally think it's actually quite good - I personally use it a lot with Safari.

All Microsoft has to do is let people white label their Bing product, look at DDG...that's Bing's engine. Most people don't know, or care. The results are good. That's actually how Google became so popular, Yahoo used Google. Bing just needs to keep integrating itself into the next big things. Unfortunately Google often will pay a handsome sum to make sure it keeps a foothold...I mean look at Siri. It went from Google to Bing to Google. No doubt there was a negotiation that caused that. Given Apple's focus on privacy, it would be a bit surprising if they don't switch again.
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