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Can I import my Chrome passwords into FF?

I really recommend switching to a password manager - it's also easier to access the passwords from other devices. For example I can use the same passwords on Firefox desktop and on Safari - iPhone (including auto-fill on iOS 12). I have good experience with 1Password (subscription paid).

I don't know about easier. having passwords in the browser syncs to all devices automatically. So it's at least as easy.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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I wouldn’t call Microsoft as a company returning control to Engineers and product. I bought a surface pad for my dad. Setting up was a pain, my dad had constant issues where he’d do something and didn’t know how to get out of it. UX was inconsistent. Bing ads everywhere. Yuck! It still very much felt like features were created for someone to get a promo. Google at the moment feels like a ruthless data driven company.…

> Google at the moment feels like a ruthless data driven company. “Our charts show that with this change people use more google services. It invades user’s privacy and pisses off a bunch of HN users but who cares? This will make us a trillion dollar company, and it is working!” This. A million times. Be prepared for the next step: http://decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html

Despite my familiarity with the Paperclip Maximizer, it has still been instructive to think it through in real time. It's a nice way to think about priorities in life.

Thanks!

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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There are really very few things Chrome is better at than Firefox these days.

I tried to switch to Firefox lately after this new speedy version had been released. I really underestimated how good Chromium is. Basic stuff, like in page search(Ctrl+F) is awful after Chromium experience. Resistance to copying omni-bar is silly. Crashes every day. The UX is bad compared to Chromium. Spent month dealing with it and just abandoned this endeavor. Really sad, i want Firefox to be better.

I haven't had Firefox crash in years, and I use nightly for all of my day-to-day browsing. Chrome crashes or locks whenever I iterate on a canvas based game after some amount of refreshes.

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In an ideal world, yes. But people have mortgages, families and other commitments. Some have social anxiety and find job hunting an impossibly scary prospect. Others might suffer from depression. It's all good and well placing generalised ethics on individuals to do the right thing but in those kind of ideal world scenarios you also wouldn't have accountants finding tax loopholes, lawyers perpetuating patent abuse, n…

In general I agree with you, clearly not everybody has the luxury of being able to quit their jobs if it doesn't align with their values, especially when the problem is so relatively benign in the grand scheme of things. I'm not trying to downplay Google's decision here, I invite everybody to stop using Chrome, but it's not like they're enslaving people or something. I can imagine that most people wouldn't risk hurti…

The thing I would add is that Google's whole thing about "bringing your whole self to work" and providing food and amenities to keep you at the office as long as possible leads to some unfortunate effects: Many Googlers social circles are heavily filled with other Googlers, and a Googler may rely on Google for a lot more than just the paycheck.

If someone's spending say 14+ hours a day on a Google campus, leaving can be a lot harder than just "finding a new job".

Even some of those publicly protesting Google's behavior or pushing for a union will turn around and help promote their friends' products or encourage people publicly to apply to join Google.

So I'd point out they've successfully made it as hard as possible, socially, to quit.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Having Google on your resume is in no way impressive in my opinion. I have reviewed plenty of resumes and been part of the interview process. Being a Google employee just doesn't matter.

Your opinion is not representative and thus not relevant to the argument (that ex-Google engineers have very good job prospects).

>Your opinion is not representative and thus not relevant to the argument (that ex-Google engineers have very good job prospects).

He never claimed it was. More importantly, he is providing a data point, whereas the original claim did not provide anything to back it up.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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What's the alternative to Android though? Apple has its own well-documented issues, as well as a rather large price-tag. I just use my phone for maps and some chat services, don't need a very fancy phone. Even the iPhone 7 is listed at £449, which is already £150 more than I paid for my Sony Xperia. I wish stuff like HP WebOS or Meego was still alive, but as far as I know, Apple and Google are the only serious player…

Android (the Android Open Source Project) itself is not the Problem. It's the lock-in ecosystem that Google tries to establish with the Google Services Framework, Play Store and the like. What is missing, is an open and privacy-friendly alternative to GSF. Without GSF we don't have efficient push notifications (Firebase Cloud Messaging), a geolocation provider, a maps API etc. Personally, I have been using microG ( h…

how is the product quality of microG? if a user is happy with GSF, will they be disappointed with microG?

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Yup, same. Switched to ff and bing. Was surprisingly frictionless. Next week I'll be off gmail too. Up yours google. The week after, I'm getting rid of my android phone. I'm a high school IT teacher and have some influence over hundreds of students each year. I've already started to sprinkle in some discussion about privacy and will be sure to inform my students about the issues. Of course I won't brow beat my studen…

What phone are you replacing Android with? 'cause Apple isn't much better, Windows phone is dead, and Blackberry...

Apple is much better. You can also install a custom rom.

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But are there any moral corporations left? It feels like you can just keep running.

Not really, gotta work for small businesses or start your own.

And those will be sold to evil corp later on or will do subcontractors for them. I do not see any escape.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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It shows just how much better Chrome is on every other aspect.

There are really very few things Chrome is better at than Firefox these days.

Firefox doesn't even have default zoom (last I checked).
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