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Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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Zoho CEO here. Our domain was abruptly blocked by our registrar this morning. Our NOC team and myself tried to get in touch with them and they tell us "Contact our legal". Even I could not get in touch with anyone beyond their phone operator. The domain was restored, but as DNS takes time to restore, we are still facing issues. They later claimed there were abuse complaints about Zoho.com emails (which is our persona…

If you have 40M users I suspect the annual cost from the registrar is very small part of the budget. Get a registrar where you don't have to deal with a phone operator. I work in this industry and it's a very clear separation between bulk registrars and those that maintain fewer but high value domain names. The latter usually give you a personal contact person to call and work proactively to deal with threats to comp…

which registrars are these?

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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...or running a logged off browser with cookied restricted to the browser session. I spend my time solving captchas which I am getting sick of. My immediate reaction now when presented a captcha is to browse away.

That is pretty terrible if the web is being split into "google knows who you are and approves of you visiting this website" vs not being tracked by google and being treated as a second class user.

They are not treating you as second class citizen, they are saying they haven't trust you to be human yet. Which is the whole point of capcha.

You want Google to not know about you. You want to be a stranger to them. And you are complaining that they don't trust stranger, which you want to be, as much as someone they know?

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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That’s a little harsh. Having said that.... Zoho customer support is worse than useless. They’ll happily call you back only to tell you that they can’t help because it’s someone else you need to speak to. It’s a real shame because the Zoho product line is vast and with more focus it could be brilliant. But every part of it has little issues that will never get fixed because it feels like there’s nobody within the fro…

Ironically zoho for some bizarre reason would not let us update our company credit card. Calls and email to tech support were useless. We ended up having to just move to another service since we had no way to pay. So zoho is quite happy to terminate their users with no recourse.

Maybe tierra.net was one of those customers

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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...or running a logged off browser with cookied restricted to the browser session. I spend my time solving captchas which I am getting sick of. My immediate reaction now when presented a captcha is to browse away.

That is pretty terrible if the web is being split into "google knows who you are and approves of you visiting this website" vs not being tracked by google and being treated as a second class user.

s/Google/China

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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I learned this the hard way just a few months ago with Namecheap. Those guys dumped all of my personal information to some people (my name, address, phone number, etc.). I have kids in my home and all they offered me was $100 in Namecheap credit, which I didn't accept out of principle. I spoke with a lawyer and the privacy laws in the U.S. seem to make it not even worth going after them. Registrars basically can do w…

What people? Why are you scared of them? Should I be worried, as I have domains at namecheap.

Check out https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14139288

Never use namecheap for anything important.

I almost has a domain frozen with namecheap after one warning. If I missed the warning email or checked my email after 24 hours they would have completely suspended my domain. I'm talking about a site with MILLIONS of visitors per month and ten thousands of posts per day, not some small blog.

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What people? Why are you scared of them? Should I be worried, as I have domains at namecheap.

I’m in the same position and would love to hear more as well

See my comment above.

I repeat don't use namecheap for any meaningful business, especially anything that is "enterprise"

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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Zoho CEO here. Our domain was abruptly blocked by our registrar this morning. Our NOC team and myself tried to get in touch with them and they tell us "Contact our legal". Even I could not get in touch with anyone beyond their phone operator. The domain was restored, but as DNS takes time to restore, we are still facing issues. They later claimed there were abuse complaints about Zoho.com emails (which is our persona…

Transfer your domain to a major registrar. Tierra.net looks like some bs cheap registrar and doesn't have any social media updates on their accounts since 2017. I'd recommend Namecheap.

Namecheap is just as bad, check out https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14139288

I almost has a domain frozen with namecheap after one warning. If I missed the warning email or checked my email after 24 hours they would have completely suspended my domain. I'm talking about a site with MILLIONS of visitors per month and ten thousands of posts per day, not some small blog.

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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Zoho CEO here. Our domain was abruptly blocked by our registrar this morning. Our NOC team and myself tried to get in touch with them and they tell us "Contact our legal". Even I could not get in touch with anyone beyond their phone operator. The domain was restored, but as DNS takes time to restore, we are still facing issues. They later claimed there were abuse complaints about Zoho.com emails (which is our persona…

Ted from Namecheap here. I shot you an email. We'd be happy to help you out and ensure that your domain is locked down.

Namecheap is just as bad.

I run a forum site with MILLIONS of visitors and about 5,000 TB of traffic per month. Namecheap.com suddenly sent me a link warning that they will suspend my domain completely within 24 hours, if I did not delete two problem images (which were inappropriate/troublesome images but in the context of the forum posts, "a very poor attempt at humor"). I deleted the images and avoided being suspended, but the way they threatened to suspend my domain due to two images was ridiculous. If I missed the warning email or checked my email after 24 hours they would have completely suspended my domain. I'm talking about a site with MILLIONS of visitors per month and ten thousands of posts per day, not some small blog.

They may be suitable for some blog, but I can now say to NEVER use them for any enterprise site.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14139288

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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I love namecheap - customer for over 10 years - but a recent incident has me rethinking my patronage. We recently received a "lawyer DDOS" - where a law firm sent multiple letters claiming /alleged/ trademark infringement. Without proof of identity, proof of subpoena, judge's order - whatever - namecheap rolled over on their WHOIS protection. There was no dialog, no email from legal, nothing. I was dismayed to see th…

I am also on namecheap and this freaks me out. can you provide more info?

Read my comments too. Namecheap definitely is just as bad.

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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This is a fireable offence for the CEO. There is no excuse for this level of incompetence. Makes me question all sorts of things now about Zoho. What else is run like a shit show over there?

I am the CEO. Yes, this situation is unacceptable. Unfortunately domain registrars do have extreme power this way. It could happen to any domain.

If you can ask your team to write a detailed blog post on how you handled this situation and remedied it for future it would be a great help for many of us
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