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Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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Zoho CEO here. Our domain was abruptly blocked by our registrar this morning. Our NOC team and myself tried to get in touch with them and they tell us "Contact our legal". Even I could not get in touch with anyone beyond their phone operator. The domain was restored, but as DNS takes time to restore, we are still facing issues. They later claimed there were abuse complaints about Zoho.com emails (which is our persona…

Zoho has 40M users and apparently $350M in revenue. Why are you using a consumer grade domain registrar[0]?

The gold standard for any enterprise is MarkMonitor. You can pick any other enterprise level service which would mean you don't resort to lowering yourself to begging on Twitter to find a contact at a pivotal service provider

This has damaged you beyond DNS propagation, I don't know how anybody in tech is going to take you seriously again without some serious action

[0] https://www.tierra.net/

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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Ironic isn't it. You ignored your paid subscriber in 2014, didn't respond to any @ tweets, your phone support went to voicemail, your forum threads were closed with no response. Karma is a bitch isn't it

That’s a little harsh. Having said that.... Zoho customer support is worse than useless. They’ll happily call you back only to tell you that they can’t help because it’s someone else you need to speak to. It’s a real shame because the Zoho product line is vast and with more focus it could be brilliant. But every part of it has little issues that will never get fixed because it feels like there’s nobody within the fro…

I am using Zoho Reports to generate some daily PDFs from a DB. If they could just make it so I could copy reports and point the reports at new queries it would be fantastic. As it is, I just want to throw the whole thing out and will eventually make something to replace it.

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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Even a solid company like Namecheap wouldn't actually be appropriate for a large, enterprise corporation such as Zoho.

What would you recommend?

Probably something similar to CSC Global.

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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Zoho CEO here. Our domain was abruptly blocked by our registrar this morning. Our NOC team and myself tried to get in touch with them and they tell us "Contact our legal". Even I could not get in touch with anyone beyond their phone operator. The domain was restored, but as DNS takes time to restore, we are still facing issues. They later claimed there were abuse complaints about Zoho.com emails (which is our persona…

Zoho has 40M users and apparently $350M in revenue. Why are you using a consumer grade domain registrar[0]? The gold standard for any enterprise is MarkMonitor. You can pick any other enterprise level service which would mean you don't resort to lowering yourself to begging on Twitter to find a contact at a pivotal service provider This has damaged you beyond DNS propagation, I don't know how anybody in tech is going…

Cut them some slack.

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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Zoho CEO here. Our domain was abruptly blocked by our registrar this morning. Our NOC team and myself tried to get in touch with them and they tell us "Contact our legal". Even I could not get in touch with anyone beyond their phone operator. The domain was restored, but as DNS takes time to restore, we are still facing issues. They later claimed there were abuse complaints about Zoho.com emails (which is our persona…

I'd go with DYN.COM for all my domain and DNS needs for a million/billion(?) Dollar business such as this. No referral here, just advice.

Don’t forget https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Dyn_cyberattack

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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Ted from Namecheap here. I shot you an email. We'd be happy to help you out and ensure that your domain is locked down.

Hi Ted. This event seems to have been triggered from abuse complaints - and involved the registrar not reaching out to the client in question. Curiously enough, I had a very similar incident with Namecheap last week: an unsubstantiated email (without subpoena, judge's order, or even validation of who actually sent the email) - was sent to namecheap abuse /alleging/ (correct, no proof) trademark infringement. Namechea…

I obviously can't comment on this without any further information but I have to say that this sounds quite unusual. We have very strict policies regarding due process: https://www.namecheap.com/legal/general/court-order-and-subp...

Can you shoot me an email? ted [at] namecheap.com

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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I'd go with DYN.COM for all my domain and DNS needs for a million/billion(?) Dollar business such as this. No referral here, just advice.

Don’t forget https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Dyn_cyberattack

Mirai was an extremely rare event. I understand businesses were impacted, but it's unfair to hold a three-year grudge against any Mirai victims who are otherwise responsible infrastructure operators.

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If you have 40M users I suspect the annual cost from the registrar is very small part of the budget. Get a registrar where you don't have to deal with a phone operator. I work in this industry and it's a very clear separation between bulk registrars and those that maintain fewer but high value domain names. The latter usually give you a personal contact person to call and work proactively to deal with threats to comp…

Yes, that is good advice. We are reviewing all our processes about domain registries right now. Major lesson learned, and I would encourage other companies to think this through and learn from our experience today.

Do you have enough capital to become a registrar?

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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Zoho has 40M users and apparently $350M in revenue. Why are you using a consumer grade domain registrar[0]? The gold standard for any enterprise is MarkMonitor. You can pick any other enterprise level service which would mean you don't resort to lowering yourself to begging on Twitter to find a contact at a pivotal service provider This has damaged you beyond DNS propagation, I don't know how anybody in tech is going…

Cut them some slack.

based on everything i've experienced and heard about Zoho i'd say this incident is a symptom of issues rather than a cause

Re: Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint

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Hi Ted. This event seems to have been triggered from abuse complaints - and involved the registrar not reaching out to the client in question. Curiously enough, I had a very similar incident with Namecheap last week: an unsubstantiated email (without subpoena, judge's order, or even validation of who actually sent the email) - was sent to namecheap abuse /alleging/ (correct, no proof) trademark infringement. Namechea…

I obviously can't comment on this without any further information but I have to say that this sounds quite unusual. We have very strict policies regarding due process: https://www.namecheap.com/legal/general/court-order-and-subp... Can you shoot me an email? ted [at] namecheap.com

Email sent. I'd love to be mistaken on this. As re-iterated in the email, the email + address used in subsequent C&Ds were to a personal address only used in NC.
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