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Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Are you surprised? Google invented infantilism of their workers. They invented basic colors, office slides, and office ball pits. They make new employees wear propeller hats. They want a naive "ender's game" work force while their business of monitoring the web browsing and location of hundreds of millions of people is actually very serious.

I was wondering about the abundance of propeller hats in the audience, if it's some insider joke or what. But seriously, new employees have to wear propeller hats?!

Yes - they're called "noogler hats", and they sometimes even sell on ebay. (Who buys this stuff?)

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Seems no one understands Popper's Paradox. Lots of talk about it being unfair that a workplace is intolerant of people who are intolerant. There are just some values that are not negotiable for a modern, civilized, homogeneous society. We're not talking about debates about the level of social welfare, or regulation, we're talking about common decency of treating people equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or eth…

You should disclose that you are a Google employee in your comment.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

#353

Seems no one understands Popper's Paradox. Lots of talk about it being unfair that a workplace is intolerant of people who are intolerant. There are just some values that are not negotiable for a modern, civilized, homogeneous society. We're not talking about debates about the level of social welfare, or regulation, we're talking about common decency of treating people equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or eth…

"There's no reason anyone has to respect ethno-nationalist views against immigrants." There are plenty of reasons to be against the current immigration regime that don't involve ethno-nationalism but it's nearly impossible to forward any such arguments without being accused of being an ethno-nationalist.

Like what?

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Seems no one understands Popper's Paradox. Lots of talk about it being unfair that a workplace is intolerant of people who are intolerant. There are just some values that are not negotiable for a modern, civilized, homogeneous society. We're not talking about debates about the level of social welfare, or regulation, we're talking about common decency of treating people equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or eth…

Modern intersectionality dictates that people be treated very differently based on their gender, sexuality, and ethnic origin.

This is a bad faith interpretation of intersectionality.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Seems no one understands Popper's Paradox. Lots of talk about it being unfair that a workplace is intolerant of people who are intolerant. There are just some values that are not negotiable for a modern, civilized, homogeneous society. We're not talking about debates about the level of social welfare, or regulation, we're talking about common decency of treating people equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or eth…

I'm assuming you're totally against Asia then? Asian countries have been far more staunch against refugees. Japan for example accepted only 27 refugees in one year while rejecting 7,586 according to the Brookings Institute. South Korea accepted only 94 in one year. Refugees are pretty much shut off from Singapore and China and many other Asian countries. I'm curious why these countries don't receive the same flak for…

> I'm curious why these countries don't receive the same flak for their "ethno-nationalist" views against immigrants. There are no boycotts against buying goods from these countries as they are with Trump hotels.

This is text book whataboutism. Just because someone isn't publicly complaining about Y doesn't make their criticism of X any less relevant.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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> You have no reason to believe the people at Breitbart don't sincerely believe in the issues they report on. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt by staking the claim that they are doing this because they are a bunch of cynical bastards. You are making things worse for them by claiming they really are that stupid, and while I can't rule it out 100% it borders on the unbelievable. But if you want to go down that…

I don't think that conservatively biased media is necessarily either stupid or cynically manipulative. Bastards is a strong word. Can you really not imagine an intelligent decent person genuinely holding conservative beliefs? You seem to have strong feelings against Breitbart. Why?

>Can you really not imagine an intelligent decent person genuinely holding conservative beliefs?

Why do people jump to this wild ideological attack? I don't see anywhere in the parent post that implied otherwise. If you feel that calling Breitbart and Rupert Murdoch out for what they are is a statement akin to "all conservatives are stupid or indecent", isn't that just instigating a flamewar for no reason, rather than responding to the post?

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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> You have no reason to believe the people at Breitbart don't sincerely believe in the issues they report on. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt by staking the claim that they are doing this because they are a bunch of cynical bastards. You are making things worse for them by claiming they really are that stupid, and while I can't rule it out 100% it borders on the unbelievable. But if you want to go down that…

I don't think that conservatively biased media is necessarily either stupid or cynically manipulative. Bastards is a strong word. Can you really not imagine an intelligent decent person genuinely holding conservative beliefs? You seem to have strong feelings against Breitbart. Why?

I know lots of right wing people and they loathe Breitbart.

Why are you insisting that conservative people must support racist media outlets?

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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"There's no reason anyone has to respect ethno-nationalist views against immigrants." There are plenty of reasons to be against the current immigration regime that don't involve ethno-nationalism but it's nearly impossible to forward any such arguments without being accused of being an ethno-nationalist.

Like what?

Obviously controversial, but this could be one of the reasons some may fear immigration:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaul...

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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See, I think this is the mistake you're making. You seem to think that there is some element of objective truth left here. There isn't. It's echo chambers all around. The truth is, everything is a simulacra. Fake news, fake memories, fake reality. Fake everything. Wake up.

That's another tactic often employed: to try to make it seem as if there are no facts therefore it does not matter if one side or another lies with abandon. So therefore you should not believe anything you read in the newspaper, because after all 'nothing is real'. Truth is a matter of degree, there is no black and white, so yes, it is hard to get to an objective truth when there are more than one participants to any…

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Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Seems no one understands Popper's Paradox. Lots of talk about it being unfair that a workplace is intolerant of people who are intolerant. There are just some values that are not negotiable for a modern, civilized, homogeneous society. We're not talking about debates about the level of social welfare, or regulation, we're talking about common decency of treating people equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or eth…

People can have opposing views about how to treat people equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or ethnic origin. A famous historical example is the equality feminism vs difference (diversity) feminism, which is directly opposite views with the exact same goal. One view is that women and men are equal and any difference is so minor as to not be significant, the other asserts the differences and promotes them as being important and of equality worth. The effort to achieve equality are for those two groups opposing efforts where every step forward for one is a step backward for the other.

Intolerance against different opinions oppose any dissenting views that shares the same goal but not the strategy to reach it. Equality feminism vs diversity feminism, open source vs free software, and so on.

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