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I think they are being genuine when they say their plan is to combat fake news with AI; their business is built around AI. It is one of their core competencies. I think they are going to fail, and quietly increase the human involvement once they realize that their AI isn't good enough. Then they will slowly scale back the humans as their AI improves, until the next controversy when they realize that they still need h…
That's a tragic view. How did we get to the state where the "truth" is such an elusive concept? Is it so hard to determine whether basic statements are true or false? And to build larger, higher constructs out of those building blocks? That's basically what science has been and is. It seems comically easy to identify fake news in most cases. Was this inauguration crowd larger than that one? That's a simple question t…
Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]
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#283it has become very difficult to not talk about politics & policy when having a tech discussion at work (and even on LinkedIn) today. The previous stance, that "tech should be neutral" has been, and remains a cowardly position to take by management. Personally not a fan of google's ideology but I really appreciate their openly addressing the politics-elephant in the room.
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#285This video presents as if the leadership is coddling a room full of kindergartners sad over the loaner class pet going home. Company full of children.
Are you surprised? Google invented infantilism of their workers. They invented basic colors, office slides, and office ball pits. They make new employees wear propeller hats. They want a naive "ender's game" work force while their business of monitoring the web browsing and location of hundreds of millions of people is actually very serious.
In 1999/2000 I was riding office slides at excite@home[1], and jumping in ball-pits at idealab when Google wasn't at all noteworthy except that their fans were exhausting directly into mine from their adjacent cages at globalcenter.
> They want a naive "ender's game" work force while their business of monitoring the web browsing and location of hundreds of millions of people is actually very serious.
Interesting choice of comparison, as Ender's Game is frequently criticized being an apologia for Hitler[2][3] or a Handmaid's tale for conservatives. Fanboy thugs of Card's "Handmaid's tale for conservatives". and fanboy thugs of Orson Scott Card were encouraged to attack the writers who posed this argument[4]. Card himself is a rather outspoken conservative and homophobe[5], [6] whose work is primarily about encouraging mormon ideals/moral absolutism and has essentially called for an anti-gay genocide[7].
Ender's brother and sister over the world by putting on online personaes, Locke and Demosthenes of both the right and left soas to control popular opinion by owning both sides of the debate. In a way was sort of a guidebook to modern right-wing political strategy. In a subsequent book, Ender moves to a world colonized by Brazilians. Brazil itself was a favorite post-WW2 hiding spot for Nazis.[8]
[1] https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Who-killed-Excite-ho... [2] https://peachfront.diaryland.com/enderhitlte.html [3] http://www4.ncsu.edu/~tenshi/Killer_000.htm [4] http://atdt.freeshell.org/k5/story_2005_5_28_22428_7034.html (postscript section) [5] https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/arti... [6] https://www.salon.com/2013/05/07/sci_fi_icon_orson_scott_car... [7] http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2013-05-09-1.html. [8] https://www.history.com/news/how-south-america-became-a-nazi...
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#286I should bloody well hope that anyone with a brain has a bias against astro-turf fake-populist wanna-be dictators. We owe no consideration to deliberately-destructive trolls seeking to undermine all notions of civility and social progress merely to feed Rupert Murdochs empire of faeces further banquet tables full of roasted dead orphans. Breitbart, OTOH, is precisely a harmful entity seeking to undermine all that is…
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#287This video presents as if the leadership is coddling a room full of kindergartners sad over the loaner class pet going home. Company full of children.
Are you surprised? Google invented infantilism of their workers. They invented basic colors, office slides, and office ball pits. They make new employees wear propeller hats. They want a naive "ender's game" work force while their business of monitoring the web browsing and location of hundreds of millions of people is actually very serious.
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Just because there’s a semi-uniform political bend doesn’t mean they’re biased in product. The ACLU backed the KKK’s right to March, but clearly doesn’t stand with the KKK’s values. That’s something the Breitbart audience can’t wrap their mind around, as they’d never do the same.
> That’s something the Breitbart audience can’t wrap their mind around, as they’d never do the same. Which clearly reveals _your_ bias. Well done. You can't compare Google to the ACLU. The ACLU has a track record defending free speech and freedom of expression. As long as the speech and expression does not contravene any laws the ACLU will defend it – it's irrelevant to them what values the speech and expression they…
Not anymore:
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/20180621ACL...
Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]
#289I should bloody well hope that anyone with a brain has a bias against astro-turf fake-populist wanna-be dictators. We owe no consideration to deliberately-destructive trolls seeking to undermine all notions of civility and social progress merely to feed Rupert Murdochs empire of faeces further banquet tables full of roasted dead orphans. Breitbart, OTOH, is precisely a harmful entity seeking to undermine all that is…
> We owe no consideration to deliberately-destructive trolls...
Oh man, here we go. Look, there are trolls and there are populists and fascists and neo-Nazis and anarchists and racists and scumbags and dickheads and all of those NAMES out there. Yeah! Fuck those NAMES! BURN!
..it fixes nothing to piss further into the pool. And then to turn around and call it fixed, or not fixable. How does that fix anything to be nasty right back and then convince yourself you can ignore them? That by ignoring them you are ignoring all this nastiness? Don't you think your nastiness validates their nastiness, even if you think anti-nastiness nastiness will make things better? That's a trap. We're all devalued when we inject even more bad karma into this crap ball.
We need to define ourselves by what we want the culture to be, not by the people who think are our political enemies.
So, how about instead: we actually define what is acceptable in our culture and where the line is. And then when people step over the line, we don't demonize them as bad people who seek to wreck all that is holy and good, we point out how they violated the acceptable cultural norms in a non-aggressive, non-offensive way. And then we consistently return to actions and words and not assumptions of motives and further othering of people. That way, instead of the dialog being about people's feelings and motivations, it's about how they violated the norms by actually doing something that is in direct violation of our acceptable norms, e.g. personal insults.
> Breitbart, OTOH, is precisely a harmful entity seeking to undermine all that is decent and good.
See. You are getting precisely nowhere with this, unless you consider polarization to be somewhere. I mean, seriously. What the heck do you expect? This is no dialog. They're just all bad people who hate, hate, hate. So you hate them back. Cycle.
Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]
#290it has become very difficult to not talk about politics & policy when having a tech discussion at work (and even on LinkedIn) today. The previous stance, that "tech should be neutral" has been, and remains a cowardly position to take by management. Personally not a fan of google's ideology but I really appreciate their openly addressing the politics-elephant in the room.
Talking politics at work is only ok if it's left wing. Mocking Trump and his voters, calling people racist and morons, that gets you an applause. Showing understanding for the opposite site gets you in trouble. That's chapter one of "surviving in the workplace in 2018".