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Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

#271
I should bloody well hope that anyone with a brain has a bias against astro-turf fake-populist wanna-be dictators.

We owe no consideration to deliberately-destructive trolls seeking to undermine all notions of civility and social progress merely to feed Rupert Murdochs empire of faeces further banquet tables full of roasted dead orphans.

Breitbart, OTOH, is precisely a harmful entity seeking to undermine all that is decent and good.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

#272

I should bloody well hope that anyone with a brain has a bias against astro-turf fake-populist wanna-be dictators. We owe no consideration to deliberately-destructive trolls seeking to undermine all notions of civility and social progress merely to feed Rupert Murdochs empire of faeces further banquet tables full of roasted dead orphans. Breitbart, OTOH, is precisely a harmful entity seeking to undermine all that is…

But no, Google news is not ignoring or de-prioritizing their filth-cum-journalism.

I am obviously not their target reader, and yet my news.google.com feed contains plenty of Fox propaganda.

Google obviously has no qualms about a "moron tax"

sheesh, look at Youtube. it's full of alt-right tripe.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

#273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that conservatively biased media is necessarily either stupid or cynically manipulative. Bastards is a strong word. Can you really not imagine an intelligent decent person genuinely holding conservative beliefs? You seem to have strong feelings against Breitbart. Why?

> Can you really not imagine an intelligent decent person genuinely holding conservative beliefs? Sure, but that has nothing to do with the heady mix of garbage and conspiracy that the likes of Breitbart like to stir up in order to appeal to emotion rather than to ratio. > You seem to have strong feelings against Breitbart. Why? By trying to frame this as an emotional affair you've just killed my appetite for continu…

See, I think this is the mistake you're making. You seem to think that there is some element of objective truth left here. There isn't. It's echo chambers all around. The truth is, everything is a simulacra. Fake news, fake memories, fake reality. Fake everything. Wake up.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

#274
post #168

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It's not just a simple case of 'update the wiki'. You've actually got to modify the code and potentially break already established APIs (and break scripts that parse redis logs). But putting aside the fact that it's not costless to make these sorts of changes, it's also pointless. These people will never be satisfied. They're not offended; they're bullies who want to control other people and virtue signal to their bu…

By "Update the wiki" I do also mean "sure just do the work yourself." We're saying the same thing. That said, fighting against things you claim to have no preference over you're also partaking in the same control/power trip shenanigans. That's when things really go off the rails.

Not really.

It's not the particular choice of words that bothers people. It's the fact that they either have to submit to the frivolous power-trippers or die on a hill they don't particularly want to, in this case defending the word 'slave'.

You're saying they should just submit, despite the fact that they realise the whole point of it all just is their submission.

In other words, submit to the bully because, otherwise, you're just as bad as him.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

#275
How ironic that youtube might have contributed to the radicalization of the world (see recent discussion). They realized too late or valued their revenues higher than values.

Or they adopted the value of a neutral stance, which is good. At least in theory; in practice there hardly is any true neutral.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

#276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can you really not imagine an intelligent decent person genuinely holding conservative beliefs? Sure, but that has nothing to do with the heady mix of garbage and conspiracy that the likes of Breitbart like to stir up in order to appeal to emotion rather than to ratio. > You seem to have strong feelings against Breitbart. Why? By trying to frame this as an emotional affair you've just killed my appetite for continu…

See, I think this is the mistake you're making. You seem to think that there is some element of objective truth left here. There isn't. It's echo chambers all around. The truth is, everything is a simulacra. Fake news, fake memories, fake reality. Fake everything. Wake up.

That's another tactic often employed: to try to make it seem as if there are no facts therefore it does not matter if one side or another lies with abandon. So therefore you should not believe anything you read in the newspaper, because after all 'nothing is real'.

Truth is a matter of degree, there is no black and white, so yes, it is hard to get to an objective truth when there are more than one participants to any discussion of a real life event. Witness the variety of stories you will get about a car accident that happened 5 minutes ago with several eye witnesses. You will get as many 'truths' as there are people. But a majority of them will usually agree on the bulk of the observable facts, even if individuals can be - and have been proven to be - spectacularly wrong.

But that sort of analysis does not pertain to the kind of bullshit that the likes of Breitbart will stir in with the soup to get the ratings up and the blood boiling.

Those are calculated efforts at inflicting maximum damage and to get people to respond emotionally rather than rationally. Think 'pizzagate' rather than 'blue vs turquoise'.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

#277

I should bloody well hope that anyone with a brain has a bias against astro-turf fake-populist wanna-be dictators. We owe no consideration to deliberately-destructive trolls seeking to undermine all notions of civility and social progress merely to feed Rupert Murdochs empire of faeces further banquet tables full of roasted dead orphans. Breitbart, OTOH, is precisely a harmful entity seeking to undermine all that is…

But no, Google news is not ignoring or de-prioritizing their filth-cum-journalism. I am obviously not their target reader, and yet my news.google.com feed contains plenty of Fox propaganda. Google obviously has no qualms about a "moron tax" sheesh, look at Youtube. it's full of alt-right tripe.

Of course this thread is guaranteed to be an absolute shit show, but it's revealing the level of intense emotiveness shown by your post and the one before it, and most of all by the Google execs.

Were this directed at a tiny ideological fraction of the population it could be OK, but we are talking about give or take half of the voters of the USA, UK, Poland, Hungary, Austria, etc., etc.

And when Google has such a near monopoly on massive swathes of the web that is quite concerning.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

#278
What is most worrisome is the absolute lack of ideological diversity. Google might want to consider tackling this on their diversity policies and work groups. In the light of this video and James Damore reports I can imagine that the company is not a safe space where conservatives can freely express their points of view without feeling uncomfortable or taking the risk of being ostracized or penalized throughout their career. It would be interesting to know what led to this lack of diversity, potentially addressing some recruitment bias with conservative quotas or positive discrimination while hiring. Additionally, anonimously investigating whether a compensation gap exists between conservatives and democrats could identify whether the discrimination also happens during other stages of the employee career at Google, e.g. promotions, bonus, projects... This could be done by the company or enforced by the state itself (like what happens in the UK) and the results should ideally be publicly available.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

#279

I should bloody well hope that anyone with a brain has a bias against astro-turf fake-populist wanna-be dictators. We owe no consideration to deliberately-destructive trolls seeking to undermine all notions of civility and social progress merely to feed Rupert Murdochs empire of faeces further banquet tables full of roasted dead orphans. Breitbart, OTOH, is precisely a harmful entity seeking to undermine all that is…

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Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

#280
it has become very difficult to not talk about politics & policy when having a tech discussion at work (and even on LinkedIn) today. The previous stance, that "tech should be neutral" has been, and remains a cowardly position to take by management.

Personally not a fan of google's ideology but I really appreciate their openly addressing the politics-elephant in the room.

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