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The United States Is Now the Largest Global Crude Oil Producer

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How much range do people need before there's no longer range anxiety? People used to complain about 200 miles not being enough then Tesla released 300 miles then they said that's not enough either.

It's not about distance for me, really. It's about availability and convenience of fuel. Gas stations are EVERYWHERE and it takes 3 minutes to fuel. Electric fueling stations require route planning, and takes 30+ minutes to fuel. For people who can get away with charging at home & work, it's fine. For people like me who do stuff like 170 mile trips to Tahoe often, I won't be able to have an electric car without "rang…

Electricity is far more widespread, easy to handle, and commonly available than gasoline. It’s simply a matter of installing charge points.

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How much range do people need before there's no longer range anxiety? People used to complain about 200 miles not being enough then Tesla released 300 miles then they said that's not enough either.

Neither are enough. Until I can drive across the continent as conveniently as I could in the ICE car I have today, I'll be extremely reluctant to purchase an electric vehicle.

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Used Leaf's have come down to the upper end of your price range. Heck, with group buys and all other related discounts, I've seen them for $14k new.

I got a 2013 one not long ago with a 24kwh battery (with about 20kwh of capacity remaining). I paid well under $10k for mine with a bunch of Nissan incentives (warranty and MOT cover for 3 years, things like that). In fuel and tax savings it'll have paid for itself within those 3 years (versus a petrol or diesel car), after which it's effectively a free, zero-tax, zero-fuel-cost car. My point being that an EV is alre…

>Also, I realize I'm biased, but I don't really get the range anxiety argument. If I run out of gas in a car I need to get towed to a gas station. If I run out of electricity I need to get to literally any wall outlet.

This adds to my thought that EVs will be a massive boon to the working poor. No more scraping the couch cushions for enough change to put in your tank to get to work, just go sit at a free charger somewhere. No more random breakdowns of a transmission, radiator, exhaust, etc. which can cascade into a lost job from missing work since you cant fix it. Once you can get an old used 20kwh+ EV for ~$1000 in decent shape, it’s going to be amazing for these people.

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Oil is not going away anytime soon. While there will be significantly more electric vehicles on the road in twenty years and gas and diesel vehicles will be much more efficient. There will still be millions and millions of vehicles burning gasoline and diesel. Plus that doesn't even factor in all the uses of oil outside of transportation and energy, for instance pharmaceuticals, plastics, nylon, polyester, asphalt, f…

I don't think anybody expects it to go away, what's interesting is what happens to the price if we dropped demand by 10 or 20% for instance. Would the price fall close to the cost of extraction or would supply restrict enough to keep it higher.

> Would the price fall close to the cost of extraction

My guess is we'll see the price fall closer to the extraction price, but less than where these petrostates can sustain themselves. So we'll see a succession of petrostate collapses, each one taking supply offline and popping the price back up. Would be an interesting time to trade crude.

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I second the Yergin recommendation but don't understand this: > Right now the US seems to be using oil exports to weaken other countries, rather than banking the oil and exploiting it when supply starts to dry up. I also think that some methods aren't long-term a good idea. The US is still a net importer. It exports some because its refineries are more setup for heavy grade imports. The light, sweet crude from its ne…

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/28/business/energy-environme... (see quotes from Yergin and others explaining why they think that US exporting has economic impacts on OPEC and other exporters).

"used to weaken" and "has economic impact" are very different things.

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So if USA is producing so much oil why is it not able to pay for things like Healthcare? Presumably oil coming out of the ground is free. Where is that money going?

> So if USA is producing so much oil why is it not able to pay for things like Healthcare?

We have 'better' things to spend money on, like 'defense' (/s).

> Presumably oil coming out of the ground is free.

It's not free, it costs money to discover, extract, transport, process into anything usable, transport again, etc.

> Where is that money going?

Probably the companie(s) that discover, extract, transport, process, transport, etc. And their shareholders. And politician friends.

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I'd say that's a exceptionally decent camel at $55k. Average price is $400. Australia sells camels (I'm assuming wild herds captured) for $1-1.5k per head. https://www.mla.com.au/research-and-development/search-rd-re...

Is the $400 price when they are sold for meat or hair? Or perhaps as just raw material for a camel training pipeline. Presumably a camel that anyone wants to ride has been raised and trained properly. That camel is ever going to be ridden, then putting down $400 for a warm body is only the beginning of the investment.

Article says 'world trade in live camels'.

I assume it's mostly meat but have read elsewhere Australia camels are often used for breeding vigour.

On the training. I know more about horses. Where I live in Australia a typical untrained horse will go for about $2-4k and trained it will go from $3k to $10k. Obviously add zeros for special breeds or quality genetics. I cant see camels being too different in ratio of untrained to trained value, even a lower ratio given cheaper labour costs in ME.

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Looking at China and India, I forget how big the US actually is compared to an average country. Same goes for our abundant natural resources which we don’t really talk about much (in the media at least).

I'm curious what you mean relative to China. China is almost the same size as the US (10 million square kilometers) as the US, though of course normal distorted projections make the US look much larger.

Yeah sorry I was referring to people. Although the US is a massive landmass too which I also forget sometimes.

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consider the expansion of plug in hybrids, similar to the Volt, Clarity, Prius, and Kona, all extend the viability of the petrol engine. In many cases it moves into the roll of a range extender because its weight combined with fuel is drastically less than what battery technology can accomplish; an example is the Model 3 which has nearly 1100 lbs of batteries for 310 miles. engines directly? variable valve timing wil…

Without abandoning piston engines entirely and going to turbines or something, modern auto engines are approaching maximum practical thermal efficiency for the conditions under which they must operate (being primarily horsepower-oriented rather than torque-oriented). You can get maybe 50% better if you're powering an oil tanker rather than a car, but you're not powering an oil tanker, but rather something that has to…

You seem to conflate system efficiency (e.g MPG) with thermal efficiency.

You're right that the peak thermal efficiency is thermodynamically determined and we're getting pretty close to it [0], or at least some manufacturers are.

However, there's a lot of work to be done in making the engines more efficient across a wider variety of operating conditions. Hybrids largely succeeded because they let manufacturers make engine torque demand more predictable / gave them new modalities to create the torque the driver requests.

You're right that variable valve timing isn't new - I'm under the impression that all new cars in America with overhead cams have it. However, systems that allow the valve's lift and duration to be set independently from the crankshaft / RPM certainly are new and one first generation system is poised to increase fuel efficiency by ~14% in a steady state cruising [1]. I'm actually surprised the increase isn't higher, the amount of friction that camshafts generate is unreal and removing that source of friction is extremely compelling (the benefits of infinitely adjustable timing and lift nonwithstanding). I was in a dyno lab once upon a time, and there was a ~500 kW gas engine on the dyno, the 4 camshafts collectively generated ~200 kW of friction at ~14,000 rpm. Obviously that's a much faster speed than any road going engine outside a sporty motorcycle (and friction is proportional to engine speed), but it does illustrate the friction at play.

Heck, simply reducing oil pressure to minimum-viable pressures yields 4-6% fuel efficiency increases [2]. There's no shortage to improvements in engine accessories (it's probably why so many of them have gone electric and are no longer driven off the crankshaft).

And the thermodynamic cycle of the engine is something we can adjust. Mazda's next gen Skyactiv-X system is poised to deliver 30% better fuel efficiency than the current system (Skyactiv-G) [3] because it's introducing compression ignition to the car. And a lot of the benefits are delivered throughout the engine's operating range.

Finally, we're guilty of treating cars as static. Better materials, more aerodynamic shapes, better packaging, etc. can contribute to massive efficiency gains. The sedans with the Prius' powertrain (the HS250h, Corolla hybrid in Japan) get much worse milage than the Prius. The reality is that the Prius is unusually light and unusually aerodynamic, it's worth at least +10% better milage on the freeway. Better materials and construction can take us a long way to better fuel efficiency.

[0]: http://www.thedrive.com/tech/18919/toyota-develops-worlds-mo...

[1]: https://www.motortrend.com/news/is-the-era-of-the-camless-va...

[2]: https://www.asme.org/engineering-topics/articles/automotive/...

[3]: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2019-mazda-3-with-skyac...

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