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Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Because a lot of us have a work Gmail account and a personal Gmail account.

Sure, and this would just result in two separate profiles in Chrome.

I don't want to be switching between profiles. I want to be able to see my personal Gmail and my work Gmail, and only sync up my work profile. Or alternatively, I don't want to sync.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Why is it harmful to log in once to both apps that use the same account in the same browser? Gmail and Calendar already share the same login. Is that hurting anyone?

> Is that hurting anyone? It's actually hurting me: I'd like to be able to sign into YouTube on an untrusted device without signing into Gmail at the same time.

why sign into an untrusted device in any way without two factor authentication and incognito mode enabled?

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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This is not useful to me because it creates multiple windows. I don't want that separation. I want what I have now. It was very good.

You are looking for Firefox Containers. Single window, multiple profiles separated by colors in the tabs.

and every time you open a tab you have to open it via the container feature which gets irritating after exactly one time you forget to do it and just use ctrl+t

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Sounds like you've made your choice. A bad employer at a job you like is more important than software ethics. No need for my input here. But it is your choice.

> A bad employer at a job you like is more important than software ethics. Using gmail doesn't automatically make them a bad employer. That is incredibly shallow and naive. This mentality does nothing to help "software ethics" since it forces people to make an extremely unrealistic choice. I wouldn't expect anybody to quit their job over their employer using gmail. You're just pitting more people against the idea of…

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Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Personally I think auto login should be opt in and never a default or requirement. Specially when it's Google. They are super creepy and facilitators of a future where users have zero privacy but don't have the intelligence to care about it.

So, Google is making people stupider? Thank goodness we have you here to warn us with insightful analysis such as Google is "super creepy"!

I also warn kids about not following men giving them candy.

To me it's obvious, to others it's not. Just look at Google usage. They are absolutely creepy.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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I completely switched whenever FF quantum was released to stable. The experience is amazing. I will say I think chrome dev tools are better though.

I tend to reach for Firefox's dev tools (or a node REPL) more often these days. Firefox has a much better CSS editor. I will run some dev tools in Chromium but avoid it for browsing. Once I saw that my account was linked to Chrome/Chromium without my permission, I cleared everything out of Chrome and stopped using it as a secondary browser. My secondary browser is now a separate Firefox profile: alias ff='firefox -Pr…

Which Node REPL would you recommend?

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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I tend to reach for Firefox's dev tools (or a node REPL) more often these days. Firefox has a much better CSS editor. I will run some dev tools in Chromium but avoid it for browsing. Once I saw that my account was linked to Chrome/Chromium without my permission, I cleared everything out of Chrome and stopped using it as a secondary browser. My secondary browser is now a separate Firefox profile: alias ff='firefox -Pr…

Which Node REPL would you recommend?

I use the standard one.[1] Open a terminal and type `node` to start it or run a script with Node's debugger[2] and drop into a REPL from there. I sometimes use Slimux[3] to send code snippets from Vim to a REPL in another tmux[4] pane.

[1] https://nodejs.org/api/repl.html

[2] https://nodejs.org/api/debugger.html

[3] https://github.com/epeli/slimux

[4] https://medium.com/actualize-network/a-minimalist-guide-to-t...

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Don't they all have email addresses? I'm not saying that you're entirely wrong, because I've used that rationalization for keeping Facebook in the past. What I do instead is just maintain an address book of everyone I know and send them an update on my life every once in a great while. It's much more fulfilling.

How is that different from them asking me "don't you have a web browser?" I'm already the black sheep of my family, I'm not going to make it worse because strangers on the internet told me to. (I do take some precautions, like only using Facebook in a private window, and certainly never on my phone.)

If you want to live life by what your family thinks of you, by all means, do so. Respectfully, however, if you can't consider what strangers on the internet have to say, you're significantly limiting its usefulness to you.

I'll turn that hypothetical question you posed around and ask how saying that email isn't sufficient for keeping in touch is any different from saying "Who needs greeting cards? Just let Facebook tell you to post on someone's timeline when it's a birthday or holiday."

I'm not denying that Facebook has some utility, but it's changed our definition of keeping in touch to value mass quantity over quality. If one values quality communication, Facebook is completely unnecessary and can be replaced with email which is an existing, standardized, ubiquitous, and sufficient means of keeping in contact with people. Your family would be statistical outliers if almost all of them didn't have an email you could send to.

In conjunction with "your life depends on facebook?", I'm simply saying that while one can use Facebook, there is such a thing as a viable alternative with its own advantages. It's controversial, I know.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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I never use chrome except with gmail and other google services where I have an account. I think there's a market for this kind of systema. I'm surprised anyone privacy minded still gets concerned about Google as they've been pretty open about everything since the launch of gmail. They give you free stuff in exchange for ads. Chrome must send data, even if you aren't signed in. Google has a shadow profile for you anyw…

They didn't tell people that they were buying their banking data. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-30/google-an...

Well they didn't tell people that they're not either...
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