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Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
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Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#262It started with an older version. Logging into Google automatically linked your Google account to the settings page. At least in the last version, clearing your private data (ctrl-shift-delete) no longer deleted Google cookies. To completely log out required manually digging into the advanced settings and then rebooting the browser. Google fundamentally doesn't respect user privacy, and people should use Firefox.
> Google fundamentally doesn't respect user privacy, and people should use Firefox.
This has been true for a many years now but I still see tech people ignoring it completely.
I no longer believe tech people are very intelligent. They are easily lured into whatever good looking tech comes along and will sacrifice their privacy at the drop of a hat.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#263It started with an older version. Logging into Google automatically linked your Google account to the settings page. At least in the last version, clearing your private data (ctrl-shift-delete) no longer deleted Google cookies. To completely log out required manually digging into the advanced settings and then rebooting the browser. Google fundamentally doesn't respect user privacy, and people should use Firefox.
> Google fundamentally doesn't respect user privacy, and people should use Firefox. This has been true for a many years now but I still see tech people ignoring it completely. I no longer believe tech people are very intelligent. They are easily lured into whatever good looking tech comes along and will sacrifice their privacy at the drop of a hat.
Tech people were never very intelligent. By definition, they were (and are) informed/educated in one specific discipline, but that has no correlation whatsoever with being intelligent.
This is true regardless of the discipline. You can meet astoundingly stupid heart surgeons, astrophysics PhDs, etc.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#264I see all the comments as if its a bad thing, is it a bad thing? I don't hate it.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#265It's time to start replacing Google in your life. Chrome -> Firefox Search -> DuckDuckGo Gmail -> ProtonMail (not strictly, but my recommendation) Docs -> OnlyOffice YouTube -> Use NewPipe if you have Android. There's BitChute but it has a lot of right-wing crap. Play Store -> F-Droid (if using Android) Google Drive -> Dropbox Google Maps -> HERE WeGo, or Mapquest Google News -> Yahoo! News
For a YouTube alternative I'd recommend hooktube, which is basically Startpage for YouTube. With an appropriately hardened browser it should be fine; if the Bitchute crowd is who Google is removing from YT, I'd say their doing something right for once.
The Qanon crap is literally a 4chan prank.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#266"Google calls the feature "Identity consistency between browser and cookie jar" and a Chrome representative on the official Google Chrome Help Forum confirmed that this is the intended behavior. >This is an intended behaviour if you are using the same Google Account for your Gmail and Chrome. If yes, you'll be signed out of Chrome when you signed out of Gmail account. ... Good news is that it is possible currently to…
Alternatively just get Firefox, use https://ffprofile.com/ once, and stop dealing with Chrome. Ta-da, no more spyware.
Thanks for the site tip, I will use that site from now on.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? Because it’s google? I get no advantage out of the feature, and it primarily serves to gather data on me. To me, that’s spyware.
Personally, I'm going to sign into both anyway. One less thing to sign into saves me time. That makes me happy. I dunno if I'm in the minority or not. But, it's a feature that at least some people find useful, so, I think branding it spyware is unjustified. It's not like it's a keylogger sending my data to who knows where which no reasonable person could ever find useful.
Personally I think auto login should be opt in and never a default or requirement.
Specially when it's Google. They are super creepy and facilitators of a future where users have zero privacy but don't have the intelligence to care about it.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? Because it’s google? I get no advantage out of the feature, and it primarily serves to gather data on me. To me, that’s spyware.
Personally, I'm going to sign into both anyway. One less thing to sign into saves me time. That makes me happy. I dunno if I'm in the minority or not. But, it's a feature that at least some people find useful, so, I think branding it spyware is unjustified. It's not like it's a keylogger sending my data to who knows where which no reasonable person could ever find useful.
Your anecdote is a sample size of one that shouldn't be extrapolated from.
Personally having my entire browsing history linked to my name and sent off to a company for analysis and profit is a concern, and this is a deal breaker for me. As such I will no longer be using Chrome as my default browser.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#269Once again G Suite customers get the shaft. I have a personal Gmail account, and a business G Suite account, and this change makes working with the two accounts a complete pain. All my years of Chrome bookmarks/settings/etc. are associated with my personal account, so I want the browser itself to always be logged in with that identity. But I want to be logged into my business G Suite email account "by default" when I…
For all of the features, paid G Suite users get the shaft. Google Home? Nope. Switching between accounts? Nope, that's a pain as well.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you like Vivaldi? I'm using it but am fairly ambivalent.
I use Vivaldi because the CEO is Jon von Tetzchner. Here's a quote from him from a recent interview: Q: Other browser companies tell us that too many options and features confuse users, and they remove or limit functionality based on that claim. Is that true in your opinion? A: No. [...] https://www.ghacks.net/2018/07/25/an-interview-with-vivaldis...
I didn't know this one. Love it.