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Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by yourpalkeith »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #218
redm wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, sadly its never that simple. I tried diligently (all in) to use Quantum when it came out, for over a month. It just wasn't stable/fast enough when running a larger number of tabs. I'm hopeful it will get there soon and I can ditch Chrome but its just not there for me, yet.

It might depend on your system resources, but I have +300 tabs open right now and I don't experience any problems. The only thing that's a bit slow is if I restart the browser, it takes a bit long to start up.

Why would you want so many tabs open in the first place? Is this really a common way to use a browser?

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

Spivak wrote: post #200
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #117

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If you mean profiles, Firefox has had it even longer, albeit with poor UI.

Look I'm a contributor to Firefox and even I think it's a stretch to say that FF has multi-profile support. I mean the feature is technically there but it's unusable by everyone except FF nerds. It's a special kind of hell where something like FIREFOX_PROFILE_DIR=~/.profile1 firefox FIREFOX_PROFILE_DIR=~/.profile2 firefox would actually be an improvement on the UX.

But it is that easy:

    firefox --no-remote --profile /path/to/profile/directory

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by rbinv »

jwong_ wrote: post #250
daveFNbuck wrote: post #213

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I used to do this in chrome. You can click on your profile picture in the upper-right corner of the gmail UI to switch accounts. You end up having a different URL per user, like " rel="nofollow">https://mail.google.com/mail/u/ , where is 0 or 1 if you have two users. You can put these in bookmarks and have them open in different tabs.

I have bookmarks for the usernames in the URLs, much better than hoping they stay in the same order. https://mail.google.com/mail/u/example@gmail.com

Awesome, thanks for the tip.

This also seems to work with non-Gmail URLs, where the "authuser" parameter is used (e.g. Google Analytics).

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by dagenix »

rando444 wrote: post #268
dagenix wrote: post #187

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Personally, I'm going to sign into both anyway. One less thing to sign into saves me time. That makes me happy. I dunno if I'm in the minority or not. But, it's a feature that at least some people find useful, so, I think branding it spyware is unjustified. It's not like it's a keylogger sending my data to who knows where which no reasonable person could ever find useful.

Your anecdote is a sample size of one that shouldn't be extrapolated from. Personally having my entire browsing history linked to my name and sent off to a company for analysis and profit is a concern, and this is a deal breaker for me. As such I will no longer be using Chrome as my default browser.

Your anecdote is a sample size of one that shouldn't be extrapolated from. Right back at you.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by dagenix »

some_account wrote: post #267
dagenix wrote: post #187

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Personally, I'm going to sign into both anyway. One less thing to sign into saves me time. That makes me happy. I dunno if I'm in the minority or not. But, it's a feature that at least some people find useful, so, I think branding it spyware is unjustified. It's not like it's a keylogger sending my data to who knows where which no reasonable person could ever find useful.

Personally I think auto login should be opt in and never a default or requirement. Specially when it's Google. They are super creepy and facilitators of a future where users have zero privacy but don't have the intelligence to care about it.

So, Google is making people stupider? Thank goodness we have you here to warn us with insightful analysis such as Google is "super creepy"!

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by JoshMnem »

zmw wrote: post #237
beckler wrote: post #136

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I completely switched whenever FF quantum was released to stable. The experience is amazing. I will say I think chrome dev tools are better though.

I keep hearing how awesome FF quantum is. I always have a copy of FirefoxDeveloperEdition for the occasional compatibility testing, and I keep coming back to it over the last few months, the last time being yesterday, but it just feels as sluggish as ever, whereas Chrome just feels snappier until there are hundreds of open tabs. Am I using it wrong? Also, Firefox tabs are as ugly as ever (lots of thick lines), and th…

Try using a large blocklist[1] in your hosts file and installing umatrix[2] and/or ublock origin[3] to block garbage scripts from loading. I don't know if that will help, but that's what I'm doing and Firefox is as fast or faster than Chrome.

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=hosts+blocklists

[2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/

[3] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin...

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by foobarchu »

amelius wrote: post #160
beckler wrote: post #136

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I completely switched whenever FF quantum was released to stable. The experience is amazing. I will say I think chrome dev tools are better though.

Also, last time I checked the Firefox UI uses more screen real estate, leaving a little less space for the content. The difference with chrome is small, but clearly noticeable. If Mozilla fixes this, then they have an additional user ;)

I've got an instance of both Chrome and Firefox open on MacOS right now, and the UI's use exactly the same amount of space. The navigation bar on Firefox is a little thicker than Chrome, but it's made up for with a slightly thinner tab bar (since FF tabs don't have the blank space above to make them look like physical folder tabs).

Not sure if this holds in Linux or Windows.

EDIT: In fact I just noticed that Chrome was outdated. After upgrading it to the latest build, it uses more screen real estate for the UI than FF Quantum's latest build. The difference is even more pronounced if you have bookbar bars turned on.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by zmw »

JoshMnem wrote: post #286
zmw wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep hearing how awesome FF quantum is. I always have a copy of FirefoxDeveloperEdition for the occasional compatibility testing, and I keep coming back to it over the last few months, the last time being yesterday, but it just feels as sluggish as ever, whereas Chrome just feels snappier until there are hundreds of open tabs. Am I using it wrong? Also, Firefox tabs are as ugly as ever (lots of thick lines), and th…

Try using a large blocklist[1] in your hosts file and installing umatrix[2] and/or ublock origin[3] to block garbage scripts from loading. I don't know if that will help, but that's what I'm doing and Firefox is as fast or faster than Chrome. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=hosts+blocklists [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/ [3] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin…

I confess that I have uMatrix in Chrome but not FF, but I do use pihole, and it’s not really a third party scripts problem, FF feels slower on perfectly clean sites.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by zmw »

zmw wrote: post #237
beckler wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I completely switched whenever FF quantum was released to stable. The experience is amazing. I will say I think chrome dev tools are better though.

I keep hearing how awesome FF quantum is. I always have a copy of FirefoxDeveloperEdition for the occasional compatibility testing, and I keep coming back to it over the last few months, the last time being yesterday, but it just feels as sluggish as ever, whereas Chrome just feels snappier until there are hundreds of open tabs. Am I using it wrong? Also, Firefox tabs are as ugly as ever (lots of thick lines), and th…

To add a little bit to my UI complaints: I recall that one of the original designs goals of Chrome was to reduce the chrome (ref: 2008 Chrome comic book). Over the years I’ve had a number of UI complaints with Chrome too and actually switched to Opera multiple times, but overall I think they did a good job at hiding the chrome and presenting what really matters. On the other hand, Firefox UI elements and cues stand out and intrude even after disabling everything I can find. Maybe some people prefer that for “usability”, but I personally prefer minimal UIs (hint: Apple user) and find them perfectly usable.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by ldarby »

Seirdy wrote: post #130
duiker101 wrote: post #15

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A while ago I switched to Vivaldi. I have never been happier with a browser.

Even though Vivaldi occasionally releases tarballs, the main browser is a proprietary product. See https://vivaldi.com/privacy/vivaldi-end-user-license-agreeme...

Tarballs?
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