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Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Maybe they will finally implement resolution-independent UI and release some Retina notebooks, who knows? There's already a higher-resolution 15" MBP available, would be great to see more of that.

I tend to think that Retina on larger screens (iPad sized and larger) still a ways off for cost and gpu/battery reasons. I mean, doesn't a 30" monitor require dual-link capability to feed that resolution? A retina display on even an iPad sized screen would approach that type of resolution.

DisplayPort tops out at 17.28 Gbit, which is enough for 4540 x 2837 at 60 Hz. At iPhone 4 DPI (326), this would be a 17" screen.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Just dropping some speculation here, as many are wondering what Lion can possibly offer that's new (and I don't mean a fix, but new). Touch. Deep integration with touch. As you see with the release of the Magic Trackpad, Apple is retiring the traditional mouse paradigm and moving on to versatile and complex gestures to aid in window management. Four finger swipe for expose and show desktop has been godsend for produc…

Expanded trackpad gestures are a good idea, though geeks who are big in to keyboard shortcuts can already have a pretty great experience. You can do all your window focus and visibility with the keyboard. Add a 3rd party utility like SizeUp/Divvy and you have movement and reizing, too.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Lion: King of beasts. Lion: King of OS X big cat releases -- Last 10.x?

There was nothing leopardy about Leopard and nothing tigery about Tiger so I would expect there to be nothing liony about Lion.

They held the obvious big cat name back for this special purpose! .....Yes, I'm going off the rails now.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

- A new Finder. I want tabs (like TotalFinder) and two instances in the same window, so that drag+drop doesn't require multiple windows. Like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12925/finder.png Other than that, I'd like to see it continue to get faster. Booting, opening apps, etc.

> " two instances in the same window, so that drag+drop doesn't require multiple windows."

Why wouldn't you just use copy/paste?

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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I wish they would get rid of the absurd "mount a disk before you run an installer" paradigm. Installing an app downloaded from the web, Windows vs Mac: Windows: 1 - Click a download link 2 - Yes, I'm sure 3 - Run 4 - Next, Next, Next, Finish 5 - Delete the setup file OS X: 1 - Click a download link 2 - Yes, I'm sure 3 - Open a finder window 4 - Open .dmg file, and it mounts 5 - Open the mounted image 6 - Run the inst…

A lot of application DMGs feeling they have to give the Finder window a custom background image directing you to drag the .app to /Applications/ does indicte the paradigm is a bit shabby.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

#97
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two things. One is a possibility, and one is a dream. 1. The Finder is going to change. What is becomes I don't know, but I think the filesystem will be further downplayed as Apple tries to take its vision of user friendliness even further. This is the possibility. 2. Window management goes away. Imagine software that didn't need its UI sorted and resized. Personally I hate even thinking about where something should…

How would window management go away in a desktop OS? By having only fullscreen apps à la iOS/Android? I don't see that feasible or desirable. In a small format it works, but on a desktop I very often want to see multiple windows at the same time. (say, reading documentation with code, or multiple files open at once)

A 10/GUI style horizontal window scroll is quite feasible with the new touch mouse and trackpad.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

#98
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facetime compatible iChat would be nice. More gestures for the magic trackpad. Improved Time machine (I want all to see all previous versions of a particular file, not row through a timeline of a directory.). Improved automation (Automator is still not natural enough, lots of clicky dragging.). Frameworks start to encourage 3rd party applications to continuously auto-save like iOS apps. Don't want to see but will pro…

Facebook chat is actually available through Jabber. Its not obvious, though. http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2010021113085350...

Not faceBOOK, faceTIME.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

#99
post #60

I wish they would get rid of the absurd "mount a disk before you run an installer" paradigm. Installing an app downloaded from the web, Windows vs Mac: Windows: 1 - Click a download link 2 - Yes, I'm sure 3 - Run 4 - Next, Next, Next, Finish 5 - Delete the setup file OS X: 1 - Click a download link 2 - Yes, I'm sure 3 - Open a finder window 4 - Open .dmg file, and it mounts 5 - Open the mounted image 6 - Run the inst…

In fairness, steps 1-5 or some subset of them are combined into one or two, depending on your browser.

I agree the description is a little unfair, but the point is sound.

This is how it should work

    1. User clicks download link
    2. Browser downloads a standard cross-platform .zip file, decompresses in a temporary directory
    3. Browser notifies OS.
    4. OS looks in Info.plist for instructions on where to install, possibly mpkg for more complex installers
    5. OS prompts user for permission to install and possibly run the app, or passes user over to Installer.app for complex installs
    6. Temporary files are deleted
From the user's perspective it would work like this

    1. Click download link
    2. Click "Install and Run"

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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post #95
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- A new Finder. I want tabs (like TotalFinder) and two instances in the same window, so that drag+drop doesn't require multiple windows. Like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12925/finder.png Other than that, I'd like to see it continue to get faster. Booting, opening apps, etc.

> " two instances in the same window, so that drag+drop doesn't require multiple windows." Why wouldn't you just use copy/paste?

Well, then I'm left with two copies and I have to go back and delete one. If OSX had a cut/paste, that might work better. Even so, with the way Finder currently works, it's easy to have 10-15 Finder windows going at any moment, so cmd+` can be a pain.
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