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Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by moe »

dolinsky wrote: post #50
pornel wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rewrite Finder, again. It has stupid limitations — files in use, can't put item to trash while trash is emptied. Still has only read-only support for FTP, locks up with WebDav, can't browse ZIP, etc. Copying in Finder is much slower than with cp. On Samba drive it may need 10-20 seconds to replace 2kb file. It handles permission errors erratically (sometimes asks for permission, sometimes fails, sometimes asks and fa…

While I agree about Finder getting the shaft, have you checked out Pathfinder? http://www.cocoatech.com/

I'm not the same person but I did try it.

For me it was quite a disappointment because one of my main beefs with finder is the atrocious performance even on modern hardware and especially when network mounts are involved. Sadly pathfinder turned out to be even slower!

I don't need zillions of buttons and special "features". First and foremost I want a lean and fast view into my files, everything else is secondary.

As much as I hate windows; up to this day the windows explorer remains the most bearable graphical file browser that I have used.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by jonhendry »

jasonlotito wrote: post #14
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

Fixing all the problems that OSX is still plagued with. On a daily basis. Here are problems I deal with that are Apple related, almost on a daily basis: * iChat and Bonjour. I cannot, for the life of me, get my iMac and my wife's MBP to chat, let alone do anything else iChat says it can do. I've not found a solution. I can occasionally see the MBP on my iMac, but I cannot do anything with it. * Make iLife make sense.…

I'm afraid you seem to be caught in a misery well. It's like a gravity well, but with misery. I don't know how this happens to people, but it does.

Your iChat and Safari problems are... unusual, to put it mildly. (Moreso the Safari issue, which seems to be unique to you.)

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by slantyyz »

pornel wrote: post #37
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

Rewrite Finder, again. It has stupid limitations — files in use, can't put item to trash while trash is emptied. Still has only read-only support for FTP, locks up with WebDav, can't browse ZIP, etc. Copying in Finder is much slower than with cp. On Samba drive it may need 10-20 seconds to replace 2kb file. It handles permission errors erratically (sometimes asks for permission, sometimes fails, sometimes asks and fa…

The only good thing about the Finder is the column view. Otherwise I find myself missing Windows Explorer, circa Windows 2K when using the Finder.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by pmjordan »

kogus wrote: post #60

I wish they would get rid of the absurd "mount a disk before you run an installer" paradigm. Installing an app downloaded from the web, Windows vs Mac: Windows: 1 - Click a download link 2 - Yes, I'm sure 3 - Run 4 - Next, Next, Next, Finish 5 - Delete the setup file OS X: 1 - Click a download link 2 - Yes, I'm sure 3 - Open a finder window 4 - Open .dmg file, and it mounts 5 - Open the mounted image 6 - Run the inst…

In fairness, steps 1-5 or some subset of them are combined into one or two, depending on your browser.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by slantyyz »

pohl wrote: post #32
cletus wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I must admit, one thing I've become absolutely dependent on in Windows 7 is when you press Start you can do a quick lookup of the program you're after by typing a few characters. Sure OSX has the Finder and Spotlight but it's not quite as quick and convenient, in my experience. But my big request is this: implement the TRIM command in the OS to open up the SSD choices. This is long overdue.

"Two thumbs down." I'm not rating your comment or spotlight or the start button. Rather, that's my mnemonic for Command-Spacebar, which brings focus to the spotlight search field. I can launch Terminal in 5 keystrokes: CMD-Space t e ENTER. Is the Start button really significantly better?

I use the same keystrokes to trigger Quicksilver, which some may prefer over Spotlight.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by jonhendry »

philwelch wrote: post #23
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

When I select "restart" (edit: at least when installing system updates), the computer should save application state and reboot instead of every application asking me stupid questions like "are you REALLY sure you want to quit web browsing?". I want to select "restart", go to the kitchen, get my dinner, come back, and the computer be rebooted and my applications restored the way they were before. Also, the developer t…

I'd think that could cause problems if the system frameworks or other libraries are changed by the update, but the apps are restored into RAM from the pre-update memory image.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by slantyyz »

cemregr wrote: post #20

Maybe they will finally implement resolution-independent UI and release some Retina notebooks, who knows? There's already a higher-resolution 15" MBP available, would be great to see more of that.

I tend to think that Retina on larger screens (iPad sized and larger) still a ways off for cost and gpu/battery reasons.

I mean, doesn't a 30" monitor require dual-link capability to feed that resolution? A retina display on even an iPad sized screen would approach that type of resolution.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by frou_dh »

pohl wrote: post #6
frou_dh wrote: post #3

Lion: King of beasts. Lion: King of OS X big cat releases -- Last 10.x?

One could go in almost any direction, like bible codes[1], by trying to infer things from the nature of the particular cat in question. For example, "Lions are unusually social compared to other cats,"[2] which means that MacOS X Lion could have social networking as its main feature. Just pick what you hope for the most and find a way to tie it to the critter. I only wish they had gone with "Liger". [1] http://en.wik…

Nah. I think alternate interpretations would be comparatively obscure, at least in the US/UK :-)

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by nfg »

blehn wrote: post #17
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

- A new Finder. I want tabs (like TotalFinder) and two instances in the same window, so that drag+drop doesn't require multiple windows. Like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12925/finder.png Other than that, I'd like to see it continue to get faster. Booting, opening apps, etc.

You probably realise this, but using spring-loaded folders Finder does allow you to navigate while dragging and dropping.

See http://kb.iu.edu/data/aehp.html

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by philwelch »

jonhendry wrote: post #66
philwelch wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I select "restart" (edit: at least when installing system updates), the computer should save application state and reboot instead of every application asking me stupid questions like "are you REALLY sure you want to quit web browsing?". I want to select "restart", go to the kitchen, get my dinner, come back, and the computer be rebooted and my applications restored the way they were before. Also, the developer t…

I'd think that could cause problems if the system frameworks or other libraries are changed by the update, but the apps are restored into RAM from the pre-update memory image.

Yeah you would want it to be a little smarter than I described, but not too smart. Web browsers would remember their tabs and windows, office programs would autosave and autoload temp files, etc.

I imagine there's a hundred tiny problems which make it infeasible, and it would require API changes, but damn would it be nice.

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