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Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by jasonlotito »

_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

Fixing all the problems that OSX is still plagued with. On a daily basis. Here are problems I deal with that are Apple related, almost on a daily basis:

* iChat and Bonjour. I cannot, for the life of me, get my iMac and my wife's MBP to chat, let alone do anything else iChat says it can do. I've not found a solution. I can occasionally see the MBP on my iMac, but I cannot do anything with it.

* Make iLife make sense. Videos are stored in iPhoto, but need to be transfered to iTunes to send them to the AppleTV. But I need to create them in iMovie. iMovie is for editing movies. iPhoto is for editing pictures, but also organizing movies. Movies are also organized in iTunes. Also, plugging in a devices starts up iPhoto by default. Setting this up silently isn't easy to discover.

* System Preferences. The best way to demonstrate the complete craziness of this is to explain that to disable the Remote Control, you need to go to the Security panel. I'm not even going to mention that fact that certain panels literally lie to you. No, that keyboard command you say I should use doesn't actually do what you say it does.

* Window Management. Sure, their are programs you can install for this, but it should be something handled by Apple.

* Fix Safari so I can log into their support pages. I'm mean, it's evil that I need to download Firefox so I can log into their support pages. Yes, I've cleared the cache in Safari, and cookies, etc.

Apple does great on the polish, and their system sits on top of a solid foundation, but in between that, the meat, is lacking.

Sure, OSX is stable, but it's still frustrating by default.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by jasonlotito »

jws wrote: post #9
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

Snow Leopard was all about the internals. UI changes were not a priority. Apple has presumably learned much from their iOS work that will inform their thinking about how people want to interact with a device. I don't think we'll see a touch-the-screen interface, but we might see an interface that is less file/application oriented and more task oriented. It won't be a replacement, but it might be a new direction. Oh,…

> Snow Leopard was all about the internals.

God, they fubared that. I can't count the number of times my wife complained about Snow Leopard's constant WIFI problems. It's sad when my iPhone has better connectivity then her MBP.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by ary »

_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

Two things. One is a possibility, and one is a dream.

1. The Finder is going to change. What is becomes I don't know, but I think the filesystem will be further downplayed as Apple tries to take its vision of user friendliness even further. This is the possibility.

2. Window management goes away. Imagine software that didn't need its UI sorted and resized. Personally I hate even thinking about where something should rest on a screen. Given that there are tons of legacy applications out there that use windows in a variety of ways I don't see this happening. This is the dream.

-- Edit:

Graphics drivers that are on par with Windows should probably be added to the "dream" category.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by blehn »

_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

- A new Finder. I want tabs (like TotalFinder) and two instances in the same window, so that drag+drop doesn't require multiple windows. Like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12925/finder.png

Other than that, I'd like to see it continue to get faster. Booting, opening apps, etc.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by jonknee »

jasonlotito wrote: post #14
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

Fixing all the problems that OSX is still plagued with. On a daily basis. Here are problems I deal with that are Apple related, almost on a daily basis: * iChat and Bonjour. I cannot, for the life of me, get my iMac and my wife's MBP to chat, let alone do anything else iChat says it can do. I've not found a solution. I can occasionally see the MBP on my iMac, but I cannot do anything with it. * Make iLife make sense.…

iLife and Safari are updated outside of system releases, so I wouldn't bet too heavily there. iChat will get an update though, surely with FaceTime support baked in.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by pohl »

matthewd wrote: post #11
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

my guess is a touch display on a new mac book pro line

That's where I'd put my money, too. Several weeks ago I was sitting at my laptop and I wanted to scroll down on a web page I was reading. I instinctively wrapped my hand around the bottom-right corner of my monitor and brushed the screen with my thumb.

A week later I was in an Apple store and a young kid walked up to an iMac and said "ooh, I bet this is a touch screen". It wasn't, of course, but it made me wonder if Apple hasn't been quietly training a generation of people to expect to be able to touch the screen. Maybe that's what the much-maligned glass displays has been about: user preparation for the inevitable day.

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