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Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by philwelch »

naz wrote: post #27
philwelch wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I select "restart" (edit: at least when installing system updates), the computer should save application state and reboot instead of every application asking me stupid questions like "are you REALLY sure you want to quit web browsing?". I want to select "restart", go to the kitchen, get my dinner, come back, and the computer be rebooted and my applications restored the way they were before. Also, the developer t…

That's what sleep is for. The primary use of restart is resetting your computer's state, so it would be counter-intuitive to retain it.

The primary use of restart is to install system updates. Having my applications' states reset only means I have to go in and restore their states by hand every time Apple decides to release a new version of Safari.

I actually can't think of any time I've even used restart to reset my computer's state in the past couple of years.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by pohl »

cletus wrote: post #21
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

I must admit, one thing I've become absolutely dependent on in Windows 7 is when you press Start you can do a quick lookup of the program you're after by typing a few characters. Sure OSX has the Finder and Spotlight but it's not quite as quick and convenient, in my experience. But my big request is this: implement the TRIM command in the OS to open up the SSD choices. This is long overdue.

"Two thumbs down." I'm not rating your comment or spotlight or the start button. Rather, that's my mnemonic for Command-Spacebar, which brings focus to the spotlight search field. I can launch Terminal in 5 keystrokes: CMD-Space t e ENTER. Is the Start button really significantly better?

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by aarongough »

cletus wrote: post #21
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

I must admit, one thing I've become absolutely dependent on in Windows 7 is when you press Start you can do a quick lookup of the program you're after by typing a few characters. Sure OSX has the Finder and Spotlight but it's not quite as quick and convenient, in my experience. But my big request is this: implement the TRIM command in the OS to open up the SSD choices. This is long overdue.

I'm actually using an OCZ Vertex II SSD with my Macbook Pro right now and I have nothing but good things to say.

Don't worry about trim, just get a drive that supports on-board garbage collection and dive in!

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by igravious »

philwelch wrote: post #23
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

When I select "restart" (edit: at least when installing system updates), the computer should save application state and reboot instead of every application asking me stupid questions like "are you REALLY sure you want to quit web browsing?". I want to select "restart", go to the kitchen, get my dinner, come back, and the computer be rebooted and my applications restored the way they were before. Also, the developer t…

Yeah, I'm going back to Linux because I realize I miss apt-get more than all the goodies and bling OS X brings to the table. I checked and Ubuntu 10.10 will install happily on My Macbook 5,2 and I've checked my app list: Skype for Linux? check, Spotify for Linux? check, OpenOffice? duh, Chrome? yup, Tweetdeck? there's Gwibber, the list goes on ... Textmate I'll miss and Preview.app is super-duper but apt-get install I miss you!

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by jasonlotito »

mbreese wrote: post #28
jasonlotito wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fixing all the problems that OSX is still plagued with. On a daily basis. Here are problems I deal with that are Apple related, almost on a daily basis: * iChat and Bonjour. I cannot, for the life of me, get my iMac and my wife's MBP to chat, let alone do anything else iChat says it can do. I've not found a solution. I can occasionally see the MBP on my iMac, but I cannot do anything with it. * Make iLife make sense.…

Have you tried playing with firewall settings? My wife and I had issues syncing our computers until we got the firewall setup right. iLife isn't really part of OSX, even though it comes pre-installed. It usually gets a separate release on it's own so they can sell upgrades to people on older versions of OSX. The videos / iPhoto issue is annoying, but derives from the addition of videos to the iPhone. I'm not sure how…

In reverse:

Oh, I like my Macs. I like the environment. However, it's not all roses and unicorn kisses as some make it out to be. The problem is when you want to do something remotely outside the default. Like, for instance, if you plug in your iPhone and you don't want iPhoto starting up and stealing focus, then it's a headache. Smart defaults work best, defaults that don't interrupt your workflow. Look at TimeMachine. It works without disrupting you. Awesome. It's their when you need it, but doesn't pester you. I complain, but their are also a lot of things I like.

As for the Firewall: I've tried so many things. Yes, the firewall was one thing I checked. I don't know. I spent too much time on it already that the thought of going back and spending more time is frustrating.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by pornel »

_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

Rewrite Finder, again.

It has stupid limitations — files in use, can't put item to trash while trash is emptied. Still has only read-only support for FTP, locks up with WebDav, can't browse ZIP, etc.

Copying in Finder is much slower than with cp. On Samba drive it may need 10-20 seconds to replace 2kb file.

It handles permission errors erratically (sometimes asks for permission, sometimes fails, sometimes asks and fails anyway). UI for permission change is weak.

I could rant about Finder whole day.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by steveklabnik »

cletus wrote: post #21
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

I must admit, one thing I've become absolutely dependent on in Windows 7 is when you press Start you can do a quick lookup of the program you're after by typing a few characters. Sure OSX has the Finder and Spotlight but it's not quite as quick and convenient, in my experience. But my big request is this: implement the TRIM command in the OS to open up the SSD choices. This is long overdue.

> not as quick and convenient

Do you press ⌘-Space to open Spotlight? I'm not sure how it can get more convenient...

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by mortenjorck »

In 2009, Apple added a video camera to the otherwise perfected iPod Nano. It was a sign: While one might have had to be quite prescient to imagine exactly what would come after it, it was obvious that Apple felt it had reached the end of what could be innovated with that form factor. The 2010 reinvention of the Nano was the only logical next step, at least for Apple.

In 2009, Apple released Snow Leopard, whose emphasis on optimization and subtle improvement seemed to signal the same kind of state for the operating system as the addiiton of a camera signaled for the Nano.

I think it's safe to say that what comes next will be fairly big.

I have a suspicion that among other things, 10.7 will introduce some new conventions to the basic problems of window management (though I might be a little biased). Apple has been at the forefront of dealing with it ever since Exposé debuted with 10.3, but in the years since the iPhone, iOS has thrown this problem into sharp relief. Part of me hopes they might even announce something that bears a resemblance to 10/GUI's linear window management -- I've unfortunately proven I can't really do much with the concept myself so far.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by jeffclark »

jasonlotito wrote: post #29
noahc wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I turn my WIFI on and off at lest 5 times a day.

We need to get our iPad looked at, too. It constantly has problems, but my iPhone4 has no issues with local wifi connections. Between the iPad and the MBP, it's a crap shoot with connectivity. I also complain to my wife that she needs to stop going on and offline all the time. She doesn't appreciate that. =) Edit: For those that think no problem exists: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/ipad-wifi/

Has it occurred to you that multiple devices having wifi issues could be your wifi setup?
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