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Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by cletus »

_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

I must admit, one thing I've become absolutely dependent on in Windows 7 is when you press Start you can do a quick lookup of the program you're after by typing a few characters.

Sure OSX has the Finder and Spotlight but it's not quite as quick and convenient, in my experience.

But my big request is this: implement the TRIM command in the OS to open up the SSD choices. This is long overdue.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by philwelch »

_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

When I select "restart" (edit: at least when installing system updates), the computer should save application state and reboot instead of every application asking me stupid questions like "are you REALLY sure you want to quit web browsing?".

I want to select "restart", go to the kitchen, get my dinner, come back, and the computer be rebooted and my applications restored the way they were before.

Also, the developer tools should include a good package manager instead of having to use Homebrew or Macports (both of which are flawed in various ways).

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by noahc »

jasonlotito wrote: post #15
jws wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Snow Leopard was all about the internals. UI changes were not a priority. Apple has presumably learned much from their iOS work that will inform their thinking about how people want to interact with a device. I don't think we'll see a touch-the-screen interface, but we might see an interface that is less file/application oriented and more task oriented. It won't be a replacement, but it might be a new direction. Oh,…

> Snow Leopard was all about the internals. God, they fubared that. I can't count the number of times my wife complained about Snow Leopard's constant WIFI problems. It's sad when my iPhone has better connectivity then her MBP.

I turn my WIFI on and off at lest 5 times a day.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by adolph »

_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

Facetime compatible iChat would be nice.

More gestures for the magic trackpad.

Improved Time machine (I want all to see all previous versions of a particular file, not row through a timeline of a directory.).

Improved automation (Automator is still not natural enough, lots of clicky dragging.).

Frameworks start to encourage 3rd party applications to continuously auto-save like iOS apps.

Don't want to see but will probably see: Lots of "social" junk, like Ping for iWork or something that nobody will actually use.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by jasonlotito »

jonknee wrote: post #18
jasonlotito wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fixing all the problems that OSX is still plagued with. On a daily basis. Here are problems I deal with that are Apple related, almost on a daily basis: * iChat and Bonjour. I cannot, for the life of me, get my iMac and my wife's MBP to chat, let alone do anything else iChat says it can do. I've not found a solution. I can occasionally see the MBP on my iMac, but I cannot do anything with it. * Make iLife make sense.…

iLife and Safari are updated outside of system releases, so I wouldn't bet too heavily there. iChat will get an update though, surely with FaceTime support baked in.

I know iLife and Safari are updated outside the OS, but they are still shipped with new Macs. They are apart of the system you get when you open the box and plug it in. And they add to the frustration.

Essentially, I find it sad that my wife and I find it easier to email each other things rather than use something like iChat or file sharing. I can't count the number of times we're both online, but one can't see the other, or neither can see.

The problem is the foundation is mostly fine. They really need to start working on making the system easy to use though. Their are a LOT of areas were the polish is gone, and all you're seeing are warts.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by naz »

philwelch wrote: post #23
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

When I select "restart" (edit: at least when installing system updates), the computer should save application state and reboot instead of every application asking me stupid questions like "are you REALLY sure you want to quit web browsing?". I want to select "restart", go to the kitchen, get my dinner, come back, and the computer be rebooted and my applications restored the way they were before. Also, the developer t…

That's what sleep is for. The primary use of restart is resetting your computer's state, so it would be counter-intuitive to retain it.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by mbreese »

jasonlotito wrote: post #14
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

Fixing all the problems that OSX is still plagued with. On a daily basis. Here are problems I deal with that are Apple related, almost on a daily basis: * iChat and Bonjour. I cannot, for the life of me, get my iMac and my wife's MBP to chat, let alone do anything else iChat says it can do. I've not found a solution. I can occasionally see the MBP on my iMac, but I cannot do anything with it. * Make iLife make sense.…

Have you tried playing with firewall settings? My wife and I had issues syncing our computers until we got the firewall setup right.

iLife isn't really part of OSX, even though it comes pre-installed. It usually gets a separate release on it's own so they can sell upgrades to people on older versions of OSX. The videos / iPhoto issue is annoying, but derives from the addition of videos to the iPhone. I'm not sure how they are going to handle that better.

It sounds like (based on this and a different comment) that you just don't like your Macs.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by jasonlotito »

noahc wrote: post #24
jasonlotito wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Snow Leopard was all about the internals. God, they fubared that. I can't count the number of times my wife complained about Snow Leopard's constant WIFI problems. It's sad when my iPhone has better connectivity then her MBP.

I turn my WIFI on and off at lest 5 times a day.

We need to get our iPad looked at, too. It constantly has problems, but my iPhone4 has no issues with local wifi connections. Between the iPad and the MBP, it's a crap shoot with connectivity.

I also complain to my wife that she needs to stop going on and offline all the time. She doesn't appreciate that. =)

Edit: For those that think no problem exists: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/ipad-wifi/

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

#30

Post by randallsquared »

cletus wrote: post #21
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

I must admit, one thing I've become absolutely dependent on in Windows 7 is when you press Start you can do a quick lookup of the program you're after by typing a few characters. Sure OSX has the Finder and Spotlight but it's not quite as quick and convenient, in my experience. But my big request is this: implement the TRIM command in the OS to open up the SSD choices. This is long overdue.

According to http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/apple/2010/07/01/mac-ssd-pe... :

"We started off this article making it intentionally limited in scope as we weren't expecting, in a OS that doesn't support TRIM, to find anything all that interesting. What we found was the exact opposite: an OS that doesn't appear to be affected by SSD performance degradation [...]"

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