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Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by test6554 »

hashrate wrote: post #316
test6554 wrote: post #157

If money is an issue, perhaps docker should make container authors host their own stuff and just make them searchable/discoverable in dockerhub.

> host their own stuff and just make them searchable/discoverable You aware that hosting probably represent 1% of Docker spending at the moment ? You aware that Docker has 100+ employees based in SF where the average salary is 120K$/Year ? And here I'm being gentle not to include the management[0] which in general has salary closer to 300K than 120K [0] https://www.docker.com/company

I wasn't aware. Thanks!

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by fudoo »

barrystaes wrote: post #265
fudoo wrote: post #13

I found the real problem with Docker to be that it downloads things from their repository. Just like Maven, it's a major pain point.

Its possible to run your own registry: docker run -d -p 5000:5000 --restart=always --name registry registry:2 From https://docs.docker.com/registry/deploying/ Or use the one in GitLab https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/container_registry.h...

Great, that's what I wanted from containers, more systems to run.

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Post by amaccuish »

jimktrains2 wrote: post #133
larkeith wrote: post #40

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Pretty sure that violates GDPR. Might want to email them about that.

Hackernews is worse as even if you email them they won't delete your account unless there is some issue actually causing you a problem.

Then let your relevant supervisory authority know.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by colemickens »

conradfr wrote: post #396
colemickens wrote: post #85

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I'm surprised to see rkt mentioned so much. This thread has a very 2017 vibe and doesn't seem to account for m(any) of the changes in Kubernetes (CRI), docker/containerd, anything with regard to what RH is doing as they bet more and more on this space. Anyway... Red Hat's crio is a much more obvious contender in this space (my issues with RH "marketing" of crio vs containerd aside). A slightly different scope, but ev…

I cant believe people are still taking and using technologies from 2017 /s To be fair this thread is also a testament to the sad state of affair in the container industry. How can you even chose a technology confidently? It seems even more madness than the JS world. Sometimes I feel like a dinosaur with my Vagrant boxes and my dedicated server. With threads like this I feel great.

Rkt didn't get much attention in 2017 at all. I only said that because 'rkt' was often portrayed as the anti-docker years ago, and it's really no longer a good way to look at the playing field.

It wasn't about making fun of rkt or anything. Also, I don't know, CRI has been in the works for ages at this point, as well as crio. It just seems like people who aren't paying attention in this space remember HN threads from 18-24 months ago where people thought rkt was going to be the savior from docker. It's just pretty out of date.

The comment about vagrant and a dedicated server embody an attitude that is just depressing to me. Yes, if you stick with old, functional technologies, you won't need to pay attention and/or learn anything new. And that's fine, if you're happy with it. There's a reason the rest of us moved on. Learning about CRI and knowing that rkt is dead and crio is the alternative to containerd is not that crazy of knowledge to have, or maybe I'm underestimating how much I know in the k8s space.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by jimktrains2 »

amaccuish wrote: post #433
jimktrains2 wrote: post #133

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Hackernews is worse as even if you email them they won't delete your account unless there is some issue actually causing you a problem.

Then let your relevant supervisory authority know.

I'm American, hence the GDPR doesn't apply. I also believe they have no obligation to delete my account.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by dserodio »

niemeyer wrote: post #305
delbel wrote: post #69

Ubuntu for raspberry pi requires a ubuntu login continue installing it, after formatting and setting the network up. It won't let you boot into a working setup until you create account on their website. Kind of hard if you don't have access to any other device.

I work for Canonical on snapd, so can provide some background here. You're probably describing Ubuntu Core instead of classic Ubuntu. The UX there is oriented for devices, and it was cooked to avoid default passwords in an environment in which the device often will have no display. So once you boot, the device is in a running state, and the brand (manufacturer) that cooked the image has the choice of allowing individ…

Great explanation, thanks

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by tannhaeuser »

majewsky wrote: post #407
tannhaeuser wrote: post #383

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Because a GNU userspace is "distributed" along with proprietary software?

If that were a GPL violation, >90% of Linux distributions were violating the GPL.

How so? Distros provide source code, unlike Docker images.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by thayne »

pluma wrote: post #205
thayne wrote: post #112

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> Truth is, no one cares. GDPR is an overreach designed to shake down American mega-corps And yet it hurts small startups that don't have the resources to become fully GDPR compliant more.

It hurts small startups trying to perpetuate the same blatant disregard for human rights as American startups have done in the past. It doesn't hurt small startups that are privacy-aware and treat their users with respect. Not giving users a way to delete their accounts was never okay. Tracking user behavior without consent was never okay. Holding users' data hostage was never okay. Not giving people a way to correct…

> Not giving users a way to delete their accounts was never okay. Tracking user behavior without consent was never okay. Holding users' data hostage was never okay. Not giving people a way to correct the data you keep about them was never okay.

Sure. If being GDPR compliant just meant you just don't have to do those things, it wouldn't be a problem. But with GDPR you now have to spend time (=money) understanding what GDPR means (probably with a lawyer's help) and ensuring that you are in fact compliant. "I try to protect user's privacy" isn't good enough when the EU could effectively put you out of business if you aren't. You'll have to deal with Data Access Requests, most of which are from trolls. You may need a DPO, which might require hiring someone. I'm all for protecting privacy, but the GDPR adds quite a bit of burden, which large corporations will be able to eat, but will set back smaller corporations. Really medium size companies are in the best position, since they have the resources to meet GDPR obligations, but don't have to do massive overhauls like the big corps do.

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Post by dang »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #403
sethhochberg wrote: post #172

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They're indeed giving away Docker for free, but part of the reason I hypothetically want Docker in the first place is that I trust the people distributing it to not do anything underhanded with their flagship tool's position as a product which runs thousands of other businesses' infrastructure. There is a certain degree of trust involved in using a product like Docker since it is so critical to a businesses' operatio…

So you have a complete attitude of entitlement that your preferred software must be delivered to you on your terms according to common convention. Nobody is permitted to act otherwise or we're gonna have ESR storm their office and take names. You're not a Berkeley grad are you?

Would you please not argue uncivilly like this on HN?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by dang »

rcoveson wrote: post #424
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #403

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So you have a complete attitude of entitlement that your preferred software must be delivered to you on your terms according to common convention. Nobody is permitted to act otherwise or we're gonna have ESR storm their office and take names. You're not a Berkeley grad are you?

Your thinly-veiled derision doesn't mask the fact that you are being willfully ignorant of the intent of the person you're replying to. You're not here from Reddit, are you? It's not about entitlement, but it is about common convention. Docker's offering isn't unique enough for them to betray that convention. The point of making something open source is to benefit from collaboration. Is not making the argument, "lock…

Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. Your comment would be fine without the first paragraph.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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