Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

Post by deadbunny » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 9:23 PM UTC

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>Not sure who is the target market for this tech honestly. These are gaming GPUs being announced at a games conference to an audience of gamers and games journalists. The focus of Huang's talk was how accelerated ray tracing will improve the graphical fidelity of games. GPU compute is a spin-off from gaming. Gamers remain the primary market. They generate the volume that allows Nvidia to sell a supercomputer on a car…

The point was different - it is way too expensive for regular gamers, 2080Ti likely won't be able to do 4k@60Hz like 1080Ti couldn't either and 10 games featuring RTX in the nearly future is not a sufficient draw, especially when some of the effects now look subjectively worse with RTX ON (see those shadows from multiple lights above dancing people from Jenson's demo). So the question remains - who is the real target…

Post by deadbunny » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 9:24 PM UTC

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> it is way too expensive for regular gamers Gamers arent kids anymore. Amongst my friends that game, most are nearly 30 working excellent jobs in software.

Doesn't matter if they aren't "kids" anymore or not, there's a reason AMD focused hard on the $200-300 range for graphics cards - because that's where most buyers budgets are. There are people who spend more, but even many enthusiasts are shopping in the $400-500 segment for a card to support high-refresh-rate gaming or higher resolutions like 1440P, the number of people who blow $800+ on a GPU like a 1080 Ti are few…

Post by andoriyu » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 9:27 PM UTC

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Where are you getting a 70-90% price increase? 1080s are ~$450, will now be $799. 1070s are ~$400, will now be $599. (I'm going off the top hits on Newegg)

For the 1080, by your numbers, $799/$450 represents a ~78% price increase.

Post by bitL » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 9:34 PM UTC

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Tensor cores are great for inferencing; for training their support is still a bit shaky, last time I checked.

Tensor cores (e.g. SIMD matrix FMAs) are extremely useful for training. There is nothing shaky about it. I do not get why you're being so bizarrely negative about this card. Yes, there are an enormous number of applications, for both training and inference, where an 11GB ridiculously powerful card (both in OPS and in memory speed) can be enormously useful.

Post by majewsky » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 9:36 PM UTC

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Which things exactly? Manuals translations is SO DAMN EXPENSIVE. They have to sell, what a dozen or so cards to get those losses? Or 7 european (EU) offices of which one is also a dev center vs 15 US offices (of which one is HQ/dev)? Or stock which comes to both from Taiwan? In any case, it seems VAT is the explanation and in that case price is without premium, even great compared. Still expensive.

2-year warranty easily.