Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

Post by bayesian_horse » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 7:42 PM UTC

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In terms of real time raytracing the RTX will blow the GTXs out of the water... For anything else? Remains to be seen.

This is my big question too. It's pretty standard marketing: if your new product isn't impressively better than the old one on commonly used benchmarks, you invent a new benchmark where your new product is impressively better. I wonder how much of the "look how much better these cards are at ray-tracing!" actually reflects real-world improvements users will see, and how much is there to create a benchmark that shows…

Post by mattnewport » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 7:43 PM UTC

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In their Siggraph presentation last week they mentioned using AI for both denoising and antialisasing (but they didn't provide anymore details about it).

It's likely mostly for denoising, I highly doubt it can have enough power to perform both denoising and antialiasing. The ray tracing presented would be sampling and then use the model to fill the gaps.

Post by ckocagil » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 7:45 PM UTC

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Yeah, they were. NVidia's lesson from the Crypto-boom seems to be: "Some gamers are willing to pay >$1000 for their cards". EDIT: To be fair, NVidia is still on 14nm or 12nm class lithography (I forgot which one). So the increased die size of these new chips will naturally be more expensive than the 10xx series. Bigger chips cost more to produce after all. So if you fail to shrink the die, the economics demand that y…

Could you cite this? I've heard the opposite: that Nvidia didn't chase after the crypto market /because/ a crash would cause problems (if they overproduced). Besides, they make plenty of money everywhere else. Furthermore, Intel has charged (edit: consumers) $1000+ for a chip before. The market will bear it, crypto or no crypto.

Post by xxs » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 7:46 PM UTC

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>Not sure who is the target market for this tech honestly. These are gaming GPUs being announced at a games conference to an audience of gamers and games journalists. The focus of Huang's talk was how accelerated ray tracing will improve the graphical fidelity of games. GPU compute is a spin-off from gaming. Gamers remain the primary market. They generate the volume that allows Nvidia to sell a supercomputer on a car…

The point was different - it is way too expensive for regular gamers, 2080Ti likely won't be able to do 4k@60Hz like 1080Ti couldn't either and 10 games featuring RTX in the nearly future is not a sufficient draw, especially when some of the effects now look subjectively worse with RTX ON (see those shadows from multiple lights above dancing people from Jenson's demo). So the question remains - who is the real target…

Post by dragontamer » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 7:49 PM UTC

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NVidia doesn't make many cards. They mostly make chips. The "Founders edition" are an exception, but the mass market products are made by EVGA, MSI, and other such companies. The fire-sales on EVGA 1080 Ti chips make it darn clear that there's too many 1080Ti and 1080 cards out there. https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/939592-nvidia-have-a-hu... https://camelcamelcamel.com/EVGA-GeForce-GAMING-GDDR5X-Techn... Second…

Doesn't this mean that EVGA or MSI overproduced them, and NVIDIA sold everything they made?