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Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by xxs »

magoghm wrote: post #41
the8472 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean denoising? In RT raytracing you're generally short on samples and need to interpolate between them / smooth over the shot noise.

In their Siggraph presentation last week they mentioned using AI for both denoising and antialisasing (but they didn't provide anymore details about it).

It's likely mostly for denoising, I highly doubt it can have enough power to perform both denoising and antialiasing. The ray tracing presented would be sampling and then use the model to fill the gaps.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by dragontamer »

p1esk wrote: post #62
dragontamer wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, they were. NVidia's lesson from the Crypto-boom seems to be: "Some gamers are willing to pay >$1000 for their cards". EDIT: To be fair, NVidia is still on 14nm or 12nm class lithography (I forgot which one). So the increased die size of these new chips will naturally be more expensive than the 10xx series. Bigger chips cost more to produce after all. So if you fail to shrink the die, the economics demand that y…

they overproduced the 1080 series If they did, 1080Ti wouldn't be "out of stock" on their website.

NVidia doesn't make many cards. They mostly make chips. The "Founders edition" are an exception, but the mass market products are made by EVGA, MSI, and other such companies.

The fire-sales on EVGA 1080 Ti chips make it darn clear that there's too many 1080Ti and 1080 cards out there.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/939592-nvidia-have-a-hu...

https://camelcamelcamel.com/EVGA-GeForce-GAMING-GDDR5X-Techn...

Second: these RTX 2080 chips have been in the rumor mill since June, maybe earlier. The fact that NVidia delayed until now is proof enough. NVidia has been stalling on the release of the RTX series.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by dragontamer »

amunster wrote: post #63
dragontamer wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, they were. NVidia's lesson from the Crypto-boom seems to be: "Some gamers are willing to pay >$1000 for their cards". EDIT: To be fair, NVidia is still on 14nm or 12nm class lithography (I forgot which one). So the increased die size of these new chips will naturally be more expensive than the 10xx series. Bigger chips cost more to produce after all. So if you fail to shrink the die, the economics demand that y…

Could you cite this? I've heard the opposite: that Nvidia didn't chase after the crypto market /because/ a crash would cause problems (if they overproduced). Besides, they make plenty of money everywhere else. Furthermore, Intel has charged (edit: consumers) $1000+ for a chip before. The market will bear it, crypto or no crypto.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/939592-nvidia-have-a-hu...

EDIT: Seems to be a citation from: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4182662-nvidia-appears-gpu-...

Alternative:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nvidia-results/nvidia-for...

>> Nvidia previously had forecast sales for cryptocurrency chips for the fiscal second quarter ended July 29 of about $100 million. On Thursday it reported actual revenue of only $18 million.

That suggests that NVidia has $82+ million worth of 10xx series GPUs laying around somewhere.

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Post by Keyframe »

whichdan wrote: post #6

2080 Ti FE RTX 2080 Ti GTX 1080 Ti Price $1,199 $999 $699 GPU Architecture Turing Turing Pascal Boost Clock 1635 MHz 1545 MHz 1582 MHz Frame Buffer 11 GB GDDR6 11 GB GDDR6 11 GB GDDR5X Memory Speed 14 Gbps 14 Gbps 11 Gbps Memory Interface 352-bit 352-bit 352-bit CUDA Cores 4352 4352 3584 TDP 260W 250W 250W Giga Rays 10 10 ? 2080 FE RTX 2080 GTX 1080 Price $799 $699 $549 GPU Architecture Turing Turing Pascal Boost Clo…

2080 Ti FE, 1259 Euros. All US companies follow this simple formula: $ to Euro 1:1, add 25% and then add 50-60 Euros for Free Shipping.

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Post by AboutTheWhisles »

wlesieutre wrote: post #57
agumonkey wrote: post #49

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introducing fiatlux

It's not as clever, but RayCoin would market better. Fiat Lux could be its tagline? I hope I'm joking.

No crypto currency that I know of has succeeded based on the utility of their proof of work algorithm producing something useful. Only proof of work algorithms in service of the currency itself have made an impact.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by solomatov »

bitL wrote: post #12

Hmm, 24%-42% performance increase (14/16TFlops vs 11.3TFlops) for 70-90% price increase... And prices were already inflated by crypto that is now collapsing. Not sure who is the target market for this tech honestly. Still only 11GB RAM, even if 50% faster, making it a nonsense purchase for Deep Learning enthusiasts (state-of-art models are already larger). Unless somebody invented RTX-based coin of course, then this…

You can always decrease a batch size to fit in smaller RAM.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by zeusk »

whichdan wrote: post #6

2080 Ti FE RTX 2080 Ti GTX 1080 Ti Price $1,199 $999 $699 GPU Architecture Turing Turing Pascal Boost Clock 1635 MHz 1545 MHz 1582 MHz Frame Buffer 11 GB GDDR6 11 GB GDDR6 11 GB GDDR5X Memory Speed 14 Gbps 14 Gbps 11 Gbps Memory Interface 352-bit 352-bit 352-bit CUDA Cores 4352 4352 3584 TDP 260W 250W 250W Giga Rays 10 10 ? 2080 FE RTX 2080 GTX 1080 Price $799 $699 $549 GPU Architecture Turing Turing Pascal Boost Clo…

Your TDP figures are off

* 2080 TI FE is 260W

* 2080 TI is 250W

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2080...

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by djsumdog »

I feel like there is a hard limit on rendering tech right now. We saw 4k upgrades to the PS4/xbox and next gen consoles might be a way off.

I thought the gaming industry was waiting for hardware that would let you render Marvel movie style graphics. Things that just barely hit that uncanny divide; that would give the player comic book film style immersions.

The demo video they posted does look pretty impressive. Is this the generation of video cards that will take us there, or if not, what is the next big innovation in gaming/graphics going to be?

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