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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by jsjohnst »

shimms wrote: post #297
jsjohnst wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m running Mojave on my cheese grater 2011 Mac Pro, but I’m guessing that’s because I already had upgraded the graphics cards and didn’t realize it (also upgraded CPUs, RAM, and a bunch of other stuff too). The cheese grater Mac Pros were one of the best machines Apple ever shipped imho.

Yep - they're great. I've put in USB3, replaced the spinning disk with SSD, upgraded the WiFi and RAM, but haven't done the CPUs yet (already got dual 6 cores, so aside from a slight clock bump not much point). My only concern is that the CPUs don't support something that the next major version will require, forcing a move off the MacPro 5,2 platform.

I also did USB3, upgraded wifi, SSD (also turned it into a custom fusion disk), ram bumped to 128gb, upgraded from dual quad 2.4ghz to dual hexacore 3.3ghz, added a nVidia 1080Ti (which I had to power off an extra SATA connector from the 5.25” drive bays) and upgraded the ATI (kept it split brands as the nVidia can be a momentary pain when doing OS upgrades).

I also share your concern too. :(

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by koffiezet »

iliaznk wrote: post #294
saudioger wrote: post #115

IMO the 2015 Macbook Pro is one of the best laptops ever made. Don't know why they went and messed that up. I solidly regret the 2017 version. I've had one keyboard replacement already (that required the logic board to be replaced, seriously). Since then, I've already lost two keycaps. I've been ordering replacements online because they wanted me to ship it out for repair. My 2015 Macbook is being used daily by a fri…

I'd be one of minority, I guess, but I don't mind the new macbook at all. It's a bit lighter and thinner, which is already a nice improvement for those who have to carry it around every day. While using the 2015 model, I couldn't even imagine a laptop that would make it look and feel old-fashioned, but the 2017 one did it. After using it for a couple of weeks the 2015 mac feels bulky and its keyboard – kind of tight.…

I just got myself the 2018 13" model after it became clear they addressed the keyboard/dust issue, and I'm pleasantly surprised by the keyboard feel. Initial impressions in the shop are never accurate, but after working on it for a few days, I prefer it over the keyboard of my aging MBA.

Now that said - I haven't experienced any kernel crashes yet, and I expect Apple to fix this in software, so I don't worry too much about it.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by mediocrejoker »

StudentStuff wrote: post #182
beefield wrote: post #171

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> “Other manufacturers have onsite repair” who does that nowadays and how accessible are their stores? At least Lenovo offers that in some of their models, you may be charged extra, though, if you want onsite warranty, may depend on market. This summer my space bar started to misbehave, created a ticket on Lenovo site, next day a guy arrived to my home and spend about half an hour to disassemble my laptop and replace…

Heads up Lenovo lets you take it to any of the certified independent repair shops for warranty work. I've had numerous things done under warranty, and I have a couple repair shops to choose from in Seattle!

I had a very poor experience with a Lenovo-authorized repair shop in Victoria, Canada who replaced the display on my then-brand new T420 when it failed but somehow managed to force the bottom case back together in a way that left 2-3 mm gaps at various spots and cracked the plastic in a few places.

Lenovo refused to replace it.

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Post by nullify88 »

willtim wrote: post #200
w1nt3rmu4e wrote: post #186

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Have to pile on here. I have a 2017 and use it mostly with an eternal keyboard and monitors but I am shocked when I use the built in keyboard. It is really bad to type on -- all for what? A few fractions of an inch in thickness? I had a first gen MacBook 12 and was ok with the horrible keyboard given its purpose of maximum portability. But on a desktop replacement / primary machine? What the hell were they thinking?…

It's anecdotal, but Linux on my ThinkPad gives: - Rock solid stability, uptimes of months (until I reboot to upgrade the kernel). I've never had a kernel panic in over a decade of use. - No problems with WiFi, sleep, printing or monitor hotplugging (dual wide-screen, displayport MST). Linux is tweaked, optimised and hardened by so many people and organisations, it is seriously fast and robust. The various desktop GUI…

I use a X1 Carbon 2015 running Fedora 28 (Since I first installed Fedora 22)

You need to give Linux distros a few months to become mature enough to run flawlessly on newer hardware. I recall having displayport issues when I installed Fedora 22. Aside from that case, I can't remember the last time I've had issues.

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Post by dtang »

pier25 wrote: post #232
scandox wrote: post #224

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I just find the touch experience on Surface to be completely lamentable and the hybrid desktop-tablet interface boggles my mind. I agree the hardware is fantastic but I find Windows 10 intolerable.

I agree. Windows 10 is not ready to be used property as a tablet. For example, the only way to get a slider to adjust display brightness was opening the OS display settings. At least that was the case the last time I tried it.

You can adjust brightness by swiping from the right edge to bring out the notification bar (called action center) and then tap the brightness tile to switch through five modes of brightness.

It's not a slider but it does the job well.

That said overall the tablet experience on Windows 10 is not ready for prime time. I get weirdness with the on-screen keyboard as well as quirks with Explorer and so on.

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Post by dmix »

Corrado wrote: post #295
natch wrote: post #107

The comments the user typed into the Problem Report screen are not constructive. I think that comments field would be better used for entering any possibly relevant information the user might be able to provide. For example: what was the computer, or the user, doing before the point of the panic. I'm not saying the user has a strict duty to enter information... just that it's a good idea to add some valuable informat…

I think the problem that most people have with Apple quality control is that the company has quite a lot of surplus cash and they don't appear to be using it to make their products better. If we could see that Apple recognized that a product had fundamental design problems and used their massive resources to correct it more people would be willing to give them a break. Saying that "Apple is engaged in a huge ongoing…

> I think the problem that most people have with Apple quality control is that the company has quite a lot of surplus cash and they don't appear to be using it to make their products better.

People always think they know how to spend other peoples money better than they do.

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Post by dmix »

d35007 wrote: post #264
natch wrote: post #107

The comments the user typed into the Problem Report screen are not constructive. I think that comments field would be better used for entering any possibly relevant information the user might be able to provide. For example: what was the computer, or the user, doing before the point of the panic. I'm not saying the user has a strict duty to enter information... just that it's a good idea to add some valuable informat…

Came here looking for this reply. I can understand acting that way after a long string of unproductive interactions with Apple support (note, I'm not saying I would excuse it), but typing that into a dialog box and then being proud enough of what you've written to tweet it out to the world? It doesn't leave me with a positive impression of this guy.

In the same Twitter thread the author attacks someone for using an 'accusatory tone' when questioning his claim. Meanwhile he's sending Apple the snarkiest of comments along with a bug report.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by dmix »

cygned wrote: post #2

Holding off buying a new MacBook Pro at the moment. It’s like issues pop up every other week and I simply cannot buy a machine that is not reliable. Also looking into a Lenovo Thinkpad w/ CentOS as an alternative, even though it would be difficult. It’s a pity.

Why use such an old Linux kernel with CentOS? Arch and Debian are very stable operating systems for Desktop use.

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Post by collyw »

sofaofthedamned wrote: post #92
collyw wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, and I have only ever installed Manjaro.

Yup. Used to be that the Ubuntu forums were awesome, but there was something about the Arch forums that weeded all the crap out, i've no idea what. I need to add them to the OSS projects I contribute to this year.

I guess as Linux got more popular, more people who didn't really know what they were doing joined in, usually on Ubuntu. The quality of answers dropped as a result.

I think a higher bar to entry often keeps things better quality (coming from the dev world I am thinking about Django deployment versus PHP deployment). Arch was too much of a pain for me to install last time I checked, and its going to be way too much effort for anyone relatively new to Linux.

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Post by iliaznk »

koffiezet wrote: post #302
iliaznk wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be one of minority, I guess, but I don't mind the new macbook at all. It's a bit lighter and thinner, which is already a nice improvement for those who have to carry it around every day. While using the 2015 model, I couldn't even imagine a laptop that would make it look and feel old-fashioned, but the 2017 one did it. After using it for a couple of weeks the 2015 mac feels bulky and its keyboard – kind of tight.…

I just got myself the 2018 13" model after it became clear they addressed the keyboard/dust issue, and I'm pleasantly surprised by the keyboard feel. Initial impressions in the shop are never accurate, but after working on it for a few days, I prefer it over the keyboard of my aging MBA. Now that said - I haven't experienced any kernel crashes yet, and I expect Apple to fix this in software, so I don't worry too much…

I'd agree that as you get used to it, it does definitely feel as a step forward.
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