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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by wodenokoto »

blinkingled wrote: post #146

Problem is not that T2 chips are causing kernel panic - that stuff happens. Problem is that nobody wanted the touch bar and thus the T2 chip there in the first place - another chip with its own OS running and handling the touch bar crap nobody cares about and many are annoyed by. Apple has gotten into NIH+Something fancy just to jack up the hype and prices too deep. I might be mistaken - but tell me if I am - how is…

> Problem is that nobody wanted the touch bar and thus the T2 chip there in the first place

I think you are discounting the millions of people who never wanted the F-keys in the first place.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by stevewillows »

ChristianGeek wrote: post #202
skywhopper wrote: post #128

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"My next laptop will probably not be a mac." Yeah, you aren't the only one. They are seriously throwing away all the goodwill and reputation they'd built up over the past 20 years, over features no one is asking for like the touch bar and a ridiculously short key throw.

I’ve been using Macs since 1984. I even made it through the crap the company was producing during Jobs’ first absence (albeit barely). Right now my daily computer (which gets at least 10 hours of use a day) is a maxed out 2014 MBP. I love it...it’s the best laptop I’ve ever used, Windows or Mac. If it were to die today, however, I’d replace it with a 2015 MBP. I’ve been keeping my eye on the Surface too, and if it ke…

I'm in the same boat as you, but I've got a late 2013 15". I actually picked up a Toshiba Chromebook 2 to run Gallium (xubuntu) on for when I'm outside of the house. I'm half-paranoid about something happening to this macbook pro.

As a graphic designer, I used to be 100% windows -- and even somewhat against the hype of apple products. A friend had an old 2008 macbook pro collecting dust. I figured I'd try out OSX for a time, purely in an effort to fix her laptop. I fell in love with it and picked up the 2013 a few months later.

As time goes on, I don't doubt that we'll see the 2015 maintain its resale value.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by pingec »

dfox wrote: post #89
whytaka wrote: post #13

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Time and time again, I cannot believe people recommend a company that installed spyware in their hardware. I will never ever buy a Lenovo. It doesn't matter that it didn't affect the ThinkPad line.

You should take into consideration that for both IdeaPad (the superfish one) and ThinkPad Lenovo is not much more than brand. These two lines are designed and manufactured by completely separate corporations. What is somewhat funny in this regard is that the real maker of modern ThinkPads (probably at least since introduction of the letter-number nomenclature) is Acer/Wistron with Acer as a brand being mostly known f…

I don't know if Acer manufactures Thinkpads but Wistron is not Acer.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by scandox »

Naomarik wrote: post #155
saudioger wrote: post #115

IMO the 2015 Macbook Pro is one of the best laptops ever made. Don't know why they went and messed that up. I solidly regret the 2017 version. I've had one keyboard replacement already (that required the logic board to be replaced, seriously). Since then, I've already lost two keycaps. I've been ordering replacements online because they wanted me to ship it out for repair. My 2015 Macbook is being used daily by a fri…

Completely agree. I have the 15inch 2015 MacBook Pro and a Surface Book 2. It took a bit trial but I now have a setup I like using WSL for development, and have brought all the MacOS keyboard shortcuts over with autohotkey. All Apple needed to do was have a single model without the touchbar and I would have purchased a newer model regardless of potential keyboard issues. Surface Book 2 is the most brilliant hardware…

I just find the touch experience on Surface to be completely lamentable and the hybrid desktop-tablet interface boggles my mind. I agree the hardware is fantastic but I find Windows 10 intolerable.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by SyneRyder »

miles wrote: post #217
SyneRyder wrote: post #208

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Tell me about it! I'm using a 2012 MBP right now, and I love it, except that every 2 - 3 months the hard drive flex cable fails (except for one period where it happened to last 2 years). I'm on my 4th cable, and Apple isn't offering any remedy except "when it breaks again, bring it in again and we'll replace it for free again". At least the last time I took it in, the guy replaced it on the spot in 15 minutes while I…

Electrical tape works wonders, especially as a preventative: MacBook Pro Hard Drive Cable Failure - Free fix and preventative maintenance - Question mark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amg5w0rlwDo

Oh wow, that's the first time I've seen the actual damage. It's so small that no wonder I couldn't see it.

I've still got a month left on my AppleCare, but once that expires I'll give it a try. Thank you!

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Post by nnq »

blinkingled wrote: post #146

Problem is not that T2 chips are causing kernel panic - that stuff happens. Problem is that nobody wanted the touch bar and thus the T2 chip there in the first place - another chip with its own OS running and handling the touch bar crap nobody cares about and many are annoyed by. Apple has gotten into NIH+Something fancy just to jack up the hype and prices too deep. I might be mistaken - but tell me if I am - how is…

> my X1 Carbon 6th gen

probably not what you care about, but the MBC justifies its higher price by significantly higher screen quality... and by the fact that MBPs (and Surface Pros I guess too now) are the only notebooks that manage to pull of the 'amazing screen usable outdoors' + 'battery life keeps being good even if your screen is at a higher brightness' combo...

ALL other laptop manufacturers miss this. Imo it just f sucks, that's not a good enough display!

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Post by ashishb »

some_account wrote: post #215
ashishb wrote: post #189

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> My next laptop will probably not be a mac. What will it be? To be fair, I am not a fan of Macs but I haven't seen any good GNU/Linux laptops which have proper Wi-Fi, sleep, and battery usage out of the box. Do you have any recommendations?

Not sure what you mean here... You just install Linux on them and usually things work fine. Maybe your fingerprint scanner won't work, stuff like that, but otherwise it's rare to have issues.

> Maybe your fingerprint scanner won't work, stuff like that, but otherwise it's rare to have issues. reply

Exactly. These things add up. Fingerprint scanner won't work, battery life goes down. Occasionally, the device won't come out of sleep. I have used self-managed GNU/Linux on my laptop before and these issues bother you unless GNU/Linux development is your main job.

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Post by ashishb »

EdwardDiego wrote: post #195
ashishb wrote: post #189

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> My next laptop will probably not be a mac. What will it be? To be fair, I am not a fan of Macs but I haven't seen any good GNU/Linux laptops which have proper Wi-Fi, sleep, and battery usage out of the box. Do you have any recommendations?

I'm quite enjoying my System 76 laptop, have you looked at their offerings? https://system76.com/laptops

I have purchased and returned one before. I admire them but when I tried a few years, the hardware quality as well as battery life was not up to the mark.

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Post by dom96 »

dan15 wrote: post #199
swaggyBoatswain wrote: post #105

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Buy a 2015 macbook pro, its the last one without any issues, superior keyboard, legacy ports as well. Smaller more compact touchpad as well The only downside is it is only thunderbolt 2, and they recently went away with external GPU support for new macOS updates. I paid $1500 for mine in practically brand new mint condition on amazon, buying a new a 2018 version was $2500 roughly for something that also had 512 GB SS…

> Also, programming environment is just so much nicer IMO on mac. Really? I had a Mac for a few years, but I found that I didn't like the environment as much as either Windows or Linux. A lot of programming environments work best on a Linux-like environment and don't do so well on something BSD-like (such as MacOS). There's a lot of open source software that only works on Windows and Linux, too... MacOS has such a sm…

Really? In my experience it's Windows that most are ignoring since Linux and macOS are similar enough to support easily.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by roadbeats »

ReverseCold wrote: post #191
roadbeats wrote: post #187

Not just hardware, I regret every little software update I get from Apple. For example, I can't change the password of my Macbook anymore. A simple password change fucks up the whole system, and Google is full of people reporting this stuff for years.

Eh, at least that has a kinda good reason. Stuff in keychain is encrypted by your password, so changing it means your encryption password is different from your login password. Why that doesn't change with your login is beyond me.

I got that, but there is no interaction about it with the user. If you change your password from apple to banana, you will not be able to login anymore. Both passwords won't work until you open up recovery mode and set your password back to the old one. This is what happened in my case.
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