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No, it hasn't: "One Million Muslim Uighurs Have Been Detained by China, the U.N. Says. Where’s the Global Outrage?" https://theintercept.com/2018/08/13/china-muslims-uighur-det...
OK OK Seems no country improved in terms of human rights. I cannot continue this nonsensical discussion.
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Indeed, given the recent news in East Uyghurstan. I had to double check my calendar to see that it was not April 1st. Limits to human rights by a government is intolerable in the modern epoch. Anyone that uses a Chinese product is complicit in cultural genocide. If HN doesn't speak truth to power, who else will?
Their job is to make money. Why people think otherwise is beyond me.
-- Hannah Arendt
You don't cease to be come a person responsible for what you say and do, fail to say and do, just because you pretend "you're a company". They don' thave the right to "just make money", and you don't have the right to excuse them.
How you can think you are in any way still connected to intellectual or moral tradition is not beyond me at all, but that being wrong, the fact that you shat on any and all of the greats of the last 100 years, as well as millions of murdered people -- that seems utterly beyond you. You think you know them; they no longer know you.
Of all places they could go. China appearing to succeed at a time when democracy is on the ropes is a dangerous trend for democracy. When you import goods from China, you import repression. Short-termed capitalists might think the repression applies just to workers, but China is a country with no human rights, no property rights, no rule of law. The Chinese government reserves the right to take anything you "own" the…
extremism comments. democracy is the product of objective and reason. your comments don't deserve democracy.
-- Robert Antelme, "The human race"
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The chance that in a couple decades the US is part of no big war is existent; the chance that China is gonna become a democracy in a couple of decades is null; so yeah, doesn't seem that hypocritical to me.
This is not a game of chance. Hundreds of thousands of people have died. Let's base our principles based on what actually happens. I think it's ridiculous to give the U.S. a pass because the killing might stop in a few decades.
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This is a fallacious argument, akin to conservative talk show hosts dismissing the concerns of college students because they own iPhones. Just because you exist within a system does not invalidate your complaints about the system.
It is absolutely not "fallacious" - if you are going to moralize, then you need back it up with action. The OP was not "complaining about the system" - he was making a claim that by doing business with China you are "importing repression". It is completely fair that someone who claims I am willfully "importing repression" should be held to the same standard. OR, you can just go on believing that the rest of us are im…
In many trade magazines and other commercial publications today a mention of "your smartphone" is frequently part of a hypnotic induction to get somebody thinking like a consumer.
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That's just your opinion. Other companies can have other opinions too, as long as the law doesn't force us either way.
Did you just say that the law shouldn't force us to honor human rights? Are you serious?
On one hand I'm curious to see the responses to the idea that corporations that were founded and bloomed in liberal countries can suddenly just become "global" companies and not be held to those same liberal standards.
On the other, I look at countries like China and Russia and wonder how much mileage this "liberal world order" has left in the gas tank.
If we look at history we can see that when liberalism first encountered china it wasn't John Locke and human rights that opened up trade, but a naval blockade that forced china to capitulate (and create hong kong too, which is the most liberal country in asia).
Do we as the west have the ability or the willpower to pull a move like that again? Because if we don't then i don't see how we can overcome china other than writing more bloomberg articles on how their ghost cities are going to crash their economy any day now.
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There are a billion MORE people in China than in the US. There is enormous industry and innovation there. China's government is terrible but that is their issue to resolve. All we can do is speak out, but refusing to do business hurts Chinese and American people far more than it hurts the Chinese government. Our government kills many innocent people accidentally as part of the normal course of war, but we consider it…
I think it is essentially the opposite. Speaking out does nothing since we, nor the Chinese, have any power to change the situation. All it does is makes the speaker feel good about their own situation. The power we do have is to make our own choices. The Chinese might certainly have, what they think are, good reasons for doing what they are doing, but that doesn't mean you have to participate if you think you have b…
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Believing in his good morals, the underlying hope might be to achieve change through subversion: If YC becomes popular in in China, people might visit news.ycombinator.com and find very sane liberal thinking and many shocking truths about their country.
Reddit was blocked by the Chinese firewall this month. The suspected reason is discussion of the Uyghur concentration camps. Shocking truths don’t last on the Chinese internet. When YC is invested in China they won’t last on this website either.
Encourage everyone to boycott YC. I certainly won't be applying again. It's funny to watch YC do this, the one time I was actually invited to interview with YC was when our Chinese co-founder submitted a rather fraudulent[0] application. Angry that we wouldn't participate in his fraud he disappeared and filed a frivolous lawsuit against us (which after many years we won). China's tech growth is built on IP theft and…
Nice move YC. I know Qi is highly regarded by Chinese students. He seems like a corporate vs startup guy though, so while I trust he has great access to talent and connections in industry and Govt, I'm not sure he's the best person to mentor a scrappy startup. Hope he has a good support cast.
Given the previous information, he's a capable person [0], and more importantly, "honest and dedicated to work" (Originally: 自去年一月陆奇加入百度以来，公司发生了很多积极向上的变化。我和广大同学一样，都对他正直的人品、忘我的工作精神和在技术及商业领域的敏锐洞察力印象深刻……) [1]. So I guess I'm not join the team of doubt this time for now. (Before you click, grab yourself a translator first) [0] https://www.zhihu.com/question/277693647/answer/396254674 [1] https://www.pingwest.com/a/167091
Honest? Has he denounced China's human rights violations?