Here's my prediction: DevOps is dead. In 5 to 10 years developers will no longer be mentioned in articles like this. There will be specialisation once again, because it makes absolutely no sense to make people whose main job it is to think about use cases, business logic and user interfaces to also deal with stuff like this.
Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server
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Re: Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you define what you mean by disaster recovery? To me it means the ability to recover business applications from a site failure. Assuming you have a similar definition how does Kubernetes solve that problem?
What I mean by DR is that if a data center gets nuked, you still have a replica of your k8's platform running in your other data center(s). So k8's basically runs a replica of your whole system behind the scenes so if a physical location goes down you still have your system running.
There's a lot more to replicate than just the bits in the apps.
Re: Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
What does "DevOps is dead" mean?
Seems he's essentially just predicting an increase in the division of labor between product development and infrastructure work going forward.
Sincerely,
DevOps guy formerly known as SysEngineer formerly known as SysAdmin for 15+ years.
Re: Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server
#65Sorry but this article implies that containers can solve issues like the difference between path separators on Windows and Linux. They can't even solve issues arising from differences in kernal versions, not to mention operating systems.
http://www.smashcompany.com/technology/docker-protects-a-pro...
Re: Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server
#66Here's my prediction: DevOps is dead. In 5 to 10 years developers will no longer be mentioned in articles like this. There will be specialisation once again, because it makes absolutely no sense to make people whose main job it is to think about use cases, business logic and user interfaces to also deal with stuff like this.
Re: Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
That devs will no longer do ops.
wait, is that what devops means to you? That devs are doing ops?
Re: Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nothing prevents one from having a container with many WAR files, so that there's only a single JVM for multiple applications.
The entire exercise is about expressing dependencies. (The real third hard problem in computer science. Only idiots fall for off-by-1 errors.) Containers are one way to force an application to explicitly declare all of its dependencies. The problem is the application then also bundles those dependencies. There's not much room for control or intermediation. Developers have total freedom to do all sorts of wackiness. (…
Re: Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server
#69Here's my prediction: DevOps is dead. In 5 to 10 years developers will no longer be mentioned in articles like this. There will be specialisation once again, because it makes absolutely no sense to make people whose main job it is to think about use cases, business logic and user interfaces to also deal with stuff like this.
Another prediction in 5 to 10 years infrastructure will be so streamlined, so that developers won't need to think it at all. I see the progress when we cam from manually maintained machines, to clumsy devops tools, to more streamlined dev tools like ansible, to kubernetes, and with each new step, maintaining a system requires less and less expertise.
Re: Why Kubernetes Is the New Application Server
#70Here's my prediction: DevOps is dead. In 5 to 10 years developers will no longer be mentioned in articles like this. There will be specialisation once again, because it makes absolutely no sense to make people whose main job it is to think about use cases, business logic and user interfaces to also deal with stuff like this.
Another prediction in 5 to 10 years infrastructure will be so streamlined, so that developers won't need to think it at all. I see the progress when we cam from manually maintained machines, to clumsy devops tools, to more streamlined dev tools like ansible, to kubernetes, and with each new step, maintaining a system requires less and less expertise.