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A California mall operator is sharing license plate tracking data with ICE

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Re: A California mall operator is sharing license plate tracking data with ICE

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Post by sheepmullet »

FireBeyond wrote: post #132
iosDrone wrote: post #130

This is the first thing I've read that actually increased my support for the widespread use ALPR technology. Every illegal alien in this country is a criminal, by definition.

Hopefully you've never gotten a speeding ticket, parking or similar. Because most of those are classified at the same misdemeanor level as "entering illegally", which would make you a criminal, too.

You make a good point - we need to significantly increase the penalty for this kind of illegal immigration.

There is a big difference between overstaying a visa for a few weeks and illegal migration.

Re: A California mall operator is sharing license plate tracking data with ICE

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Post by dang »

User23 wrote: post #48
chrissnell wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I go to gun shows and I've never seen it. What is your proof?

Let me google that for you: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/gun-sh...

Please don't do this here.

Re: A California mall operator is sharing license plate tracking data with ICE

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Post by dang »

wjp3 wrote: post #40
CzechTech wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe don't try to cross the border illegaly then? Seems like a valid deterrent to me.

I thought I saw a turnip truck drive by. Did you fall off?

Personal attacks will get you banned here, so please don't do this again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: A California mall operator is sharing license plate tracking data with ICE

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Post by dang »

InclinedPlane wrote: post #35
CzechTech wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe don't try to cross the border illegaly then? Seems like a valid deterrent to me.

You have no clue what you're talking about, you're just parroting a line you've been fed.

You've been breaking the site guidelines repeatedly lately. We ban accounts that do that, so please stop doing it, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are.

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Re: A California mall operator is sharing license plate tracking data with ICE

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Post by zardgiv »

dahdum wrote: post #142
zardgiv wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlawful presence, which is all anyone at a mall in California could be charged with, is a civil matter, not a crime. Unless there's some international border in Sunnyvale I missed, I don't think the ALPRs will catch any illegal entry.

I wasn't arguing that. Just that illegal entry is not the same as a speeding ticket was my point. Overstaying on legal entry is civil, and just unlawful presence. I believe that's a bit less than half the population.

Unlawful presence is 100% of the offenses you'll be able to catch in a Sunnyvale mall parking lot, and it disproves the OPs contention that they are all "criminal, by definition."

Re: A California mall operator is sharing license plate tracking data with ICE

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Post by chrismcb »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #30
s73v3r_ wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better yet, ask them to confirm that they don't track this stuff in the first place.

> ask them to confirm that they don't track this stuff in the first place I could see a reasonable case being made for collecting these data, storing them for a few weeks, and then deleting them, to protect against thieves. The problem here is that for the government to collect these data, they would need to follow certain processes. A private actor who isn't following those processes is placing those data with the g…

What reasonable case do they have to track the data? What reasonable case is there tgat requires storing for two weeks?

Re: A California mall operator is sharing license plate tracking data with ICE

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Post by s_kilk »

hanshan wrote: post #129
sverige wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is anyone in SV going to eat if private corporations can't track our every move? I mean, not everyone takes cab rides or rents private homes when they travel, but almost everyone uses the internet for something. And those people need to be tracked, or there's no money to be made.

"The internet would not exist without advertising"

Utterly wrong. The Internet wouldn't exist without gigantic state funding. The early Internet was completely free of commercial influence.

Re: A California mall operator is sharing license plate tracking data with ICE

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Post by walrus01 »

sverige wrote: post #126
Skunkleton wrote: post #13

To me the issue here is that this data is collected in the first place. It seems wrong to me that private corporations are tracking my every move.

How is anyone in SV going to eat if private corporations can't track our every move? I mean, not everyone takes cab rides or rents private homes when they travel, but almost everyone uses the internet for something. And those people need to be tracked, or there's no money to be made.

> How is anyone in SV going to eat if private corporations can't track our every move?

I work for an ISP and we do not track our customers. At all. We bill them and they receive a reliable service that performs as advertised. Maybe we could go back to the oldschool model of actually selling a product or service, delivering it to the customer, and keeping the customer happy?

Re: A California mall operator is sharing license plate tracking data with ICE

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Post by grizzles »

That was fast:

“Irvine Company is a customer of Vigilant Solutions. Vigilant employs ALPR technology at our three Orange County regional shopping centers. Vigilant is required by contract, and have assured us, that ALPR data collected at these locations is only shared with local police departments as part of their efforts to keep the local community safe.”

From:https://www.irvinecompany.com/press-release/irvine-company-s...

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