Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out 5000 cars in a week

Post by Tepix » Mon, Jul 02, 2018, 9:09 AM UTC

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Tesla is not the only brand that creates electric cars. This is all about Elon making clames he could not make true. The danger for Tesla is that people don't want to wait for broken promises anymore and will choose another brand. Edit: for example the Jaguar I-PACE might be very competitive.

I have yet to hear anyone say they're impressed with the I-Pace

Post by antpls » Mon, Jul 02, 2018, 9:51 AM UTC

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If you look at SpaceX launch schedules, many are delayed for several weeks/months. Yet it has a better public image than Tesla. I think missing deadline isnt that unexpected, it happens in many projects. If the goal is still achieved at a reasonable time after the deadline, it is still a success imho. It means the project is now a reality, and that's awesome.

Missing a launch in rocketry is a normal and expected part of life in the industry, and no matter who is launching it happens. Missing targets for producing a car isn’t. This is what people mean when they say “comparing apples and oranges.”

Post by mavhc » Mon, Jul 02, 2018, 9:58 AM UTC

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This is frankly delusional thinking. (a) Tesla aren't the leaders in the self driving car space. Waymo arguably is, (b) almost all of the car makers have self driving car programs and most importantly (c) why would the traditional car makers just sit back, do nothing and allow Tesla to eat up the entire market ?

If Tesla can make it work without lidar, and that’s a huge “if”, they have a massive head start in training data. From a conference panel a few years ago that had Tesla, Waymo and some others on stage at the same time, Tesla was getting as much data in a week as Google was in months. That type of training data asymmetry is ripe for blowing past others. Again though that’s all conditioned on not needing lidar and I re…

Post by davidgould » Mon, Jul 02, 2018, 11:23 AM UTC

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Exactly this. I drive a Chevy Spark EV, which is based on the worlds least exciting car ... and it’s brilliant! I would never buy another gas car, they just don’t drive well. And yet we hear all this dribble about panel gaps and the stitching on the seat leather. I never knew there were so many so willing to look so silly in public.

Panel gaps say a lot about construction quality, and how well it will hold up going forward. And if paying $60K+ for a car, I would expect something with amenities of a $60K+ car, not something with terrible ergonomics (touchscreen, right...) and missing features that a $30K Hyundai has.

Post by neogodless » Mon, Jul 02, 2018, 11:33 AM UTC

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>I see Teslas everywhere now. Meaning you live in one of 4 coastal cities. Teslas are exceedingly rare everywhere but the wealthiest cities.

I see them often in north florida. They aren't as common as other luxury sedans, but I see them about as often as Pontiacs, which is to say not everywhere but a lot.