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European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrous’ copyright bill

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Re: European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrous’ copyright bill

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Problem is that you cannot pretend you can't remember the password. So unless what you hide can give you more time than for not disclosing the password, then yes having things encrypted could help...

You can have different volumes for different passwords. Plausible deniability.

This can be easily checked.

Re: European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrous’ copyright bill

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This copyright bill is a complete disaster.

Here's a potential solution: A third party could create a website that allows website owners to register with them and agree to sell their links for some trivially small amount (if they want to give away their traffic), say .00000001 cents (effectively making it free). Then social sites with potential links would have a list they could check to ensure they're not accidentally linking to sites that require payment.

Sure, it's a hack. imperfect solution to a disastrous regulations.

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The EU needs a full "rewrite". The levels or bureaucratic nonsense are unbelievable. Just the sheer number of laws and regulations being pumped out every year is crazy.

Without looking, how many laws and regulations are being pumped out each year?

In 2017 alone, the EU signed 430 international agreements, passed over 3400 pieces of legislation, passed 103 adjustments to various EFTA regulations.

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The EU needs a full "rewrite". The levels or bureaucratic nonsense are unbelievable. Just the sheer number of laws and regulations being pumped out every year is crazy.

That's such nonsense.

Care to elaborate?

Re: European parliament committee approves vote on ‘disastrous’ copyright bill

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It is very easy to block VPN, Tor and other technologies. These can be in fact criminalised the same way drugs are. Possession of a VPN on your device could give you a criminal record.

It is very easy to make unenforceable laws. Actually blocking VPNs would require something akin to the great firewall of China, which I don't see the EU building in the near future. Criminalizing something means nothing if the laws can't be enforced. Torrenting copyrighted works is a criminal act, and yet torrenting has never been easier after years of efforts to shut it down from all sides.

They do worse - instead of just blocking the internet, they'll first inspect what is being uploaded to it.

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Hate them as most people in the UK do (I've never voted for them and wouldn't either), UKIP already resolved this (in a far more permanent way than the greens) by ensuring EU law does not apply to the UK in future.

Well that's completely false. We'll still be abiding by EU laws long after we leave. By 'most people', I'm assuming you mean the 30% who actually voted to leave?

It's completely true. While we're moving law to the UK, we then get to remove anything we don't like. And yes, the majority of people who voted wanted that.

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Proclaiming that something is not up for debate and refusing to engage meaningfully is an extremely easy way to lose the debate.

It's a way to try to win the debate on the cheap. Whether it works or not depends on the other party in the debate.

and on the mental and cultural capacity of the spectators :)

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> The nuclear bomb is the true peace maker. Sorry, then why has the US been involved in a major war every ten years since WW2?

>Sorry, then why has the US been involved in a major war every ten years since WW2? Because those countries didn't have nukes. Nukes create peace for those who own them, not those who don't. North Korea will never be invaded by the US as long as they have nukes. Same thing for Pakistan. It will not see the same fate as Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lybia.. because it has nukes. Western Europe knows peace because its two…

First, the EU is not a defense alliance. Second, Ukraine is not in it. European countries are largely semi-pacifist. Whether that's a good thing or not is not a settled question. Going to war is generally bad for reelection in Europe whereas it is good for reelection in the US.

I do broadly agree with you that nuclear weapons have produced peace, but the EU has done quite a bit of useful work related to internal struggles, like Ireland.

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Technically, a law like this is prone to be abused for censorship purposes. Whether this “dual use” is intended or not by parliamentarian voters, is obviously unclear. To make it even worse, such laws don’t “outlaw” some behaviour, but put a high risk on it through civil law. So, it helps multinationals (and a possible malevolent regime) and hurts small companies as well as citizens. To me, it’s hard to believe this…

Unsurprisingly, this law was most pushed by anti-EU right-wing politicians that somehow got elected as MEP, such as Marie-Christine Boutonnet[0] and Gilles Lebreton[1]. All French MEPs of the European Parliament Committee on Legal Affairs but one are right-wing eurosceptics, and for this law[2]. (Aside, the right-wing extremists MEPs were easily recognized during the Zuckerberg hearing, as their questions focused exc…

Restricting so-called "hate speech" is censorship. Perhaps it's censorship you agree with, but then at least have the integrity to forthrightly say you agree with censorship.

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post #274

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Don’t forget compliance with GDPR probably means it’s not possible to comply with this new copyright laws. Fun times for EU startups. P.S.: Taking some risks quoting Ayn Rand on HN. :)

> Don’t forget compliance with GDPR probably means it’s not possible to comply with this new copyright laws. Fun times for EU startups. GDPR is a good example of another law which is potentially dangerous. However, I do see that it's hard to comply with both, but I don't see how they interact with other. > P.S.: Taking some risks quoting Ayn Rand on HN. :) Why?

Why?

Look at all the mentions of "nazi", "fascist" and "hate-speech" in this thread. You can tell when a place leans left because this is a common left-wing conspiracy theory - that the world is full of fascists/nazis, but they're all trying to hide it. They call it 'cryptofascism'.

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