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Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Blender is running their PeerTube test from a European datacenter. I wonder what will happen to the legality of hosting a PeerTube site with public uploads if EU's upload filter law gets passed. Also I wonder how the GDPR will affect them (and anyone else hosting PeerTube in Europe or with EU users)...won't they need to get explicit consent from everyone for getting things like user IP address (so they can protect against spam and DDoS attacks) and won't they have a tough time ensuring everyone who uploads could delete their videos?

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, that only happened because advertisers learned that the "independent" creators were all assholes. Like this started after advertisers started pulling out when PewDiePie didn't just apologize and admit he was wrong with the Nazi stunts. He threw a fit and advertisers realized that YouTube isn't really as good as they thought it was.

I honestly don't believe this. I think YouTube used this as an excuse to crack down on channels they didn't like, for whatever reason. (And also a lot of other channels, because the flagging is poorly done. I know some people who run a very popular skateboarding instruction channel, and they've had huge problems with demonitization. The content is utterly inoffensive.) I think if all you were concerned about is adver…

> "Would you like to advertise on channels flagged by our system as potentially offensive?"

They already do this. People need to stop being angry at things they know nothing about.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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I can't believe this has been going on for three days. YouTube seems like it is actively sabotaging its independent content creator's channels. But in this case it's not just some random kid living with their parent's. MIT and Blender are both respectable orgs.

They've been pissing off their content creators for quiet a while now w/ completely arbitrary, machine-driven demonitization. Many of these creators are far beyond the "kid in a basement" category; they're celebs, have employees, and make $$$. It's crazy and really sad how YouTube bloomed into this awesome, independent alternative to all the crap coming out of hollywood and cable TV, but now they've decided to kneeca…

A whole of that can be traced back to leadership change at YT. Since S.W. took over, the culture at YT has changed profoundly, and most of the blunders in the last few years (this is just one in a long series) can be traced back to the culture change she fostered.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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So this seems to have happened because Youtube wants The Blender Foundation to agree to have their videos monetized. I'm not clear if they want that because of bogus copyright claims, EU legislation etc, or just because they favour making money over not making money? Edit: Either way looking for alternatives seems like a good idea.

It's pretty irritating. I'm a Red subscriber, so whatever bullshit Google has going on with their advertising monetization policy doesn't -- or, rather, shouldn't -- affect me. Yet the MIT OCW videos are blocked from my account the same as they are for everyone else.

Get your act together, Google. This is just stupid.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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It seems to me that YouTube's business model is ad supported. They need to run ads to pay for infrastructure to support the service and make profit for themselves, since they are not charging the user. So a sufficiently large channel that does not permit ads will eat into their revenues.i.e. it becomes an expensive free rider. This, I guess, is the reason behind the decision. I suppose it makes sense. But I don't see…

More to the point, why don't they go ahead and permit those of us who are paying them -- i.e., YouTube Red subscribers -- to view the blocked videos?

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Side note: PeerTube is part of the same federated network as Mastodon. You can follow Blender's PeerTube account from Mastodon by entering @blender@video.blender.org into the search bar and clicking follow on the result!

Yes and PeerTube https://joinpeertube.org/en/ is fundrising to be improved : https://www.kisskissbankbank.com/en/projects/peertube-a-free...

20 000 € goal: PeerTube v1, clean and simple

With your help, we can get PeerTube to its first stable release, its v1, planned for October, 2018. You will finance the development of:

  ○ Interface localization, to support multiple languages;
  ○ Video subtitles, to facilitate video accessibility for diverse audiences;
  ○ RSS feeds, to follow instances, users and channels through RSS protocol;
  ○ Video import from URL (YouTube, Vimeo, Dailymotion, etc.) or torrent file;
  ○ Improved and advanced search feature;
  ○ Software stability (bug fixes) and scalability.

45 000 € stretch goal: PeerTube Deluxe v1

There are important features we dream of including into the v1. We hope you will contribute so far as to helping us finance:

  ○ Video redundancy (to share bandwidth between instances or as fallback if the original instance is down)
  ○ Subscriptions to users & channels throughout the federation (for users to subscribe to whatever they want regardless of their instance federation settings)

75 000 € stretch goal: let's pave the road to v2!

PeerTube isn't a quick and easy fix to data-centralization through video platforms. It's an alternative that will grow and emancipate internet users on the long run. At this point, your contributions will help us:

  ○ Finance the development of a webapp that will be available on Android and iOS app stores;
  ○ Contribute to the ActivityPub community. ActivityPub is the groundbreaking federation protocol that runs PeerTube's federation and also Mastodon's (a federated Twitter alternative);
  ○ Secure PeerTube's lead developer employment after the V1 release (oct. 2018);
  ○ Pave the road to V2, where our priority will be a plugin system to facilitate the development of personnalized features and displays.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Side note: PeerTube is part of the same federated network as Mastodon. You can follow Blender's PeerTube account from Mastodon by entering @blender@video.blender.org into the search bar and clicking follow on the result!

oh no, now I just have even more questions, what is mastodon?

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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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The next step will be that you won't be indexed by Google's web search engine if you don't have AdSense for Content ads. Why? Because the steam is going out of Google's ad business[1], and Google has no other business. They have added just about all of the advertising on their own pages they can get away with and they started by squeezing channels with fewer than 4k views a month, and now their squeezing channels tha…

>Don't hate me for it, but my prediction is that the next lifeline Google will reach for Lifeline? Google is hardly in a bad financial situation.

I understand that not everyone sees it that way.

For me, it matches up with Google destroying the user value of Google sites (like with the Blender videos in the article), and removing 99% of organic search out of their search engine when their algorithm determines that they might be able to convert the query into some cash, or the line they have crossed repeatedly even after being slapped by the EU not once but twice! to make vendors pay for ranking in the top results of search.

For me, I've been watching their CPC numbers drop for decades (that, in my opinion, is a reasonable proxy for the 'profit margin' on clicks) and I've seen them pay more and more to direct traffic to their sites as their organic traffic has dried up.

I see their business model under siege, their profit margins eroding, their efforts at monetization becoming more and more off putting to the data cows they are trying to milk, and conclude they are in fact dying.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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