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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by vorpalhex »

ucaetano wrote: post #174
vorpalhex wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A contract in the US can't override tort law. Material change without consideration is de facto no go. This is pretty standard torts 101. You can say whatever you want in a contract but that doesn't mean the clause is valid. Furthermore ToS fall under sticker contracts which have a different level of scrutiny especially in regards to material changes post facto. YouTube knows this. This is why they are trying to get…

> If your claim above was correct, YouTube would of simply already monetized the channel and unblocked the videos. No, they can't do that, but they can end the service until a new contract is signed. Which is exactly what happened. The YT ToS does not create an obligation on YT's part to serve your videos.

> The YT ToS does not create an obligation on YT's part to serve your videos.

Correct. The issue here is that they blocked the videos (not plain removal) with no warning or stated limit, and then demanded monetization to unblock the videos, thus creating a duress situation.

If YouTube had a stated policy saying "Videos getting over 250k views must be monetized" or sent a 90 day warning the situation would be different.

Instead YouTube blocked the videos without warning and then demanded a new monetization contract to restore service. That reeks of a duress case.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by foxylad »

Neirin wrote: post #170
gargron wrote: post #17

Side note: PeerTube is part of the same federated network as Mastodon. You can follow Blender's PeerTube account from Mastodon by entering @blender@video.blender.org into the search bar and clicking follow on the result!

oh no, now I just have even more questions, what is mastodon?

A good replacement for Twitter. Where "good" means:

- Decentralised. Anyone can run their own instance, but instances are federated so everyone on any instance can see your toots (Mastodon's tweets). So if you're paranoid about privacy or hate Nazi bootboys, you can run your own instance with complete control.

- A nice progression of feeds from only people you follow; to all toots of your instance; to toots from all instances.

- Polite discourse, at least on the mastodon.social instance which I belong to. Different instances have different rules, so maybe there is one for Nazi bootboys.

- Open, so if you don't like the interface, you can make your own. The stock web interface is fine for me.

- No ads!

- Trump isn't on it.

If you enjoyed Twitter more in the past when real people tweeted about real things, Mastodon is definitely worth checking out.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by falcolas »

cwyers wrote: post #219
cvwright wrote: post #171

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No you're right, this particular behavior doesn't help to preserve their monopoly. It's evidence that they already have one. Companies who have to survive in a competitive marketplace don't typically go around driving away customers en masse. This is like something from 1990's Microsoft.

In what sense is Blender a customer if they aren't monetizing their videos, though?

In the same sense an open source project is a customer of GitHub's. The exchange of money is not required for someone to be a customer of a service.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by sitkack »

cvwright wrote: post #160
Applejinx wrote: post #11

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I made a video about this in January, before YouTube strongarmed Blender. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ksbTTXHw8 I am pretty dismayed to be this right. I didn't think YT would be nearly this aggressive in service of the ideas I outlined. Basically, they take a cut off that activity. In some cases they could take most of or all the money, which is a clear win for them, but even when they pay out they're earning r…

Eventually this is going to get them in trouble with the Sherman Antitrust Act. From Wikipedia: > "Innocent monopoly", or monopoly achieved solely by merit, is perfectly legal, but acts by a monopolist to artificially preserve that status, or nefarious dealings to create a monopoly, are not. The purpose of the Sherman Act is not to protect competitors from harm from legitimately successful businesses, nor to prevent…

Don't forget that Google owns the backbone that Youtube videos transit on for free. By leasing that dark fiber, they get peering agreements that effectively makes their ability to send bytes to the internet free. No one else has that ability.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by Larrikin »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #230
lucb1e wrote: post #144

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You made a video about YouTube criticism and host it on YouTube? Either that's being optimistic about them, or the dominance is so large that it outweighs everything else...

...wouldn't that be a logical place to post your YouTube criticism? Do you think Martin Luther weakened his message by nailing his criticism of the church to the door of a church? Do you think picket lines are misguided for surrounding their targets when they could picket unrelated areas farther away?

It has become a pretty common complaint lately that people should only have their protests in places where the only people that will see them are the people that already agree with them.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by arcbyte »

thefifthsetpin wrote: post #123
Applejinx wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made a video about this in January, before YouTube strongarmed Blender. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ksbTTXHw8 I am pretty dismayed to be this right. I didn't think YT would be nearly this aggressive in service of the ideas I outlined. Basically, they take a cut off that activity. In some cases they could take most of or all the money, which is a clear win for them, but even when they pay out they're earning r…

I watched your video and you made some great points. As an aside, I have to wonder if you've thought through your desire to serve your website over HTTP instead of over HTTPS. You noted that you use ad blocking software because ad networks are a common route by which malware propagates. HTTP websites comprise another salient target for malware. If I am at a coffee shop with a compromised wifi router and I load your H…

Sometimes HTTPS makes sense and sometimes HTTP makes sense. HTTPS everywhere NEVER makes sense.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by cwyers »

falcolas wrote: post #233
cwyers wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what sense is Blender a customer if they aren't monetizing their videos, though?

In the same sense an open source project is a customer of GitHub's. The exchange of money is not required for someone to be a customer of a service.

That's a user.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by ubernostrum »

ajross wrote: post #53
ng12 wrote: post #49

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Aside from the fact that Blender is a non-profit backing a free, open-source application -- you're right. YouTube does have that right. And I have the right to think holding the dissemination of free educational material hostage to make a quick buck is reprehensible. Also don't forget that YouTube gave them the option to not advertise on those videos. It's so arbitrarily capricious I was convinced it was a technical…

> Aside from the fact that Blender is a non-profit backing a free, open-source application The Blender Foundation isn't "Blender", though. It's a financial entity with income (there's literally a giant "donate" link on their home page) and expenses. They pay for all sorts of stuff that they need (obviously I have no clue what their balance sheet looks like). And no one whines that they don't get free conference admis…

Actually, tech conferences are expensive to attend, and there's been a growing movement the past few years for conferences to at least comp the ticket of someone who's scheduled to speak.
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