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An aside note is that I wish there were fewer developers in this type of threads pretending that the abomination that is JSX makes react better than vue... which can use JSX just fine.
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Also, in enterprise consultant built apps we often have to consider what kind of talent we're going to be able to get for that project. It's much easier to get Angular and React developers than Vue developers at the moment. That could certainly change in a year of course.
It boggles my mind that companies don’t expect frontend devs to be able to transfer knowledge between frameworks. Do they just not have that skill or do companies really not believe those devs are capable of that? Or both?
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In Vue and Angular you only need to figure out how to mix Javascript-like expressions with HTML-like templating language: {{ item.message }}
Pretty slick. It isn't fundamentally different from *ngFor in Angular (with let to declare the variable), but the details make it much more pleasant.
As code goes in complexity Vue quickly becomes ... let’s call it weird: https://mobile.twitter.com/dmitriid/status/98777166684669952...
Javascript-like scripting in strings? Check. Different versions of HTML-like attributes? Check. Magic binding of all that to specific structures in JS code? Check.
But please, do tell me how it’s beter than React where you “have to figure out how to mix JavaScript expressions with JSX expressions (sometimes it gets ugly).”
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> React (really JSX) solves the single problem of making HTML a part of JavaScript The reason I like the way Vue works is because it makes javascript part of the HTML definition (with component definitions), essentially the opposite of what you like about React. That said, my use case of Vue is very different to my use case for React. Even though Vue does essentially solve the same problem set, their approaches have…
Could you elaborate on the different use cases for each? I don't know enough about vue to spot them myself
But I would consider React and Vue for building a larger scale, stateful application like Spotify or Slack.
After building two large applications using React, Redux, Redux Sagas, and Typescript, I feel burnt out. I'm honestly surprised Elm or ReasonML aren't more popular as they seem to provide all those aforementioned libraries in one go.
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Sorry, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but I just can't imagine how shoehorning a language into XML could ever be a good idea.
thats how i felt too, and i'm now a big fan of vue. its funny how that works.
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> Discussing which tools work best is an important question in software development. I completely agree, but would you write an article titled "Spoons still blowing away Forks in digging holes"?
Maybe...if Forks were more popular on Github?
No one I work with has ever even brought up the possibility of switching from React to Vue, let alone counting Github stars. Compare to when React came out, it was immediate consensus that we need to switch from Backbone to React. When Angular gained popularity, we did not have an urge to switch because it felt unclear what the scope and direction of Angular actually was. React (really JSX) solves the single problem…
> With React there's no weird "v-if ng-if" template logic that you have to grapple with. To me, Handlebars already gave me enough taste of how horrible and limiting maintaining template logic outside of components is. React was a good step in the right direction. But IMO they lost the plot with things like: - shouldComponentUpdate(nextProps, nextState) - componentDidUpdate(prevProps, prevState, snapshot) and the whol…
State is local props, props are from parent. How can that concept be "complex" to someone is beyond me.
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Just to note you can use render functions and write jsx in Vue :) https://vuejs.org/v2/guide/render-function.html
But every time I ask about that, I get crickets. So who here is using JSX in Vue?
Also, some project include their dependencies to VCS which only count once per build.