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I’m not American and I’ve always found it fascinating how a part of the American population defends the existence of illegal immigrants in American soil. It’s crazy.
It is crazy! For ~40 years now, people have consistently wanted restrictions on illegals coming into the country. We have had essentially, tyrannical lawlessness at the Federal level in the refusal to seriously enforce immigration laws.
I don't understand the issue fully, so I would love if someone would prove me wrong. You commit a crime. Your child commits a crime. You go to prison. Your child goes to a youth detention center. OMG FACISM !! Meanwhile, my Chinese and Indian friends wait patiently 20 years for a green card and no one bats an eye. Edit: Look at top 4 downvoted comments, 4 top upvoted comments. Great way to promote thoughtful discussi…
If you don't understand something maybe it is better to go read, rather than post. For one thing, going to a point-of-entry and requesting asylum is not a crime.
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Applying for asylum at a port of entry is not a crime, and none of those people are being detained or separated from their kids. But crossing into the country illegally is a crime, even if you subsequently request asylum. Edit: Someone1234, I would reply directly but I’m rate limited. The incident you’re pointing out is more nuanced than that. To combat human trafficking, we separate children from adults we suspect m…
That's inaccurate. This person applied for asylum at a port of entry and was immediately separated from his child: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/migrant-seeking-asylum... This article goes into detail about several other cases. Quote: > But there is evidence that even families who seek asylum at ports of entry are being separated. One high-profile case involves a Congolese woman who sought asylum and still wa…
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Applying for asylum at a port of entry is not a crime, and none of those people are being detained or separated from their kids. But crossing into the country illegally is a crime, even if you subsequently request asylum. Edit: Someone1234, I would reply directly but I’m rate limited. The incident you’re pointing out is more nuanced than that. To combat human trafficking, we separate children from adults we suspect m…
Are asylum seekers necessarily aware of that distinction?
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I think you're getting it very wrong; this isn't about people saying "let's just allow illegal immigrants the full rights of legal immigrants". There are some people saying that, but they're a small minority. This is about saying "some people have come here illegally. let's not psychologically torture their children for it" You can be for legal migration and the humane treatment of people at the same time.
What’s the alternative? Anyone else that commits a crime and is imprisoned is separated from their family and children. Why should illegal immigrants get a pass?
These children are being ripped from their parents and kept in literal cages in warehouses.
https://twitter.com/DemWrite/status/1008939085384126464
I don't think that is happening in your scenario.
>... [We] recognize the grave responsibility that those creating powerful technology have to ensure what they build is used for good, and not for harm. I don't read hear or read this sentiment nearly as often as I would like. Good on these folks for stepping up.
What's "good" is very subjective. Certainly transforming the US into Mexico 2.0 through mass immigration isn't inherently "good" in the eyes of many Americans. The demographic changes come with decline in almost ALL areas of life. Does anyone really expect the US to perform at the same level when you increasingly replace the European population with a Mestizo one?
>... [We] recognize the grave responsibility that those creating powerful technology have to ensure what they build is used for good, and not for harm. I don't read hear or read this sentiment nearly as often as I would like. Good on these folks for stepping up.
+1. and its a great idea to do as an open letter. let's hope it spreads
Could someone help me understand the issue with this whole thing? If you show up to commit a crime with your children in tow, you are going to wind up separated from them while you go to jail for that crime. That is as true for illegal entry as it is for bank robbery. Why does the Valley feel that it's OK for immigration laws to be violated? Even very liberal countries around the world tend to be tough on illegal imm…
It’s illegal to apply for asylum?
I’m not American and I’ve always found it fascinating how a part of the American population defends the existence of illegal immigrants in American soil. It’s crazy.
It's baffling to me as well. For some reason lots of Americans also don't support ID requirements for voting either. I'm from Brazil and even here we require ID for voters. I really just don't get it.
To start, in America the vote is not mandatory like in Brazil. Here, the "ID requirement" is not being implemented as a way to make better elections or prevent fraud, but as a way to suppress and limit the power of minorities, which by many complicated reasons, usually votes do the left.
Also, illegal immigration is/was a product of the prosperity of the country. It only became an economic issue after 9/11, when the government tightened policies and made impossible for people without proper documents to contribute.
Undocumented immigrants can't buy and drive a car (in most states) or be able to pay for health-insurance (it used to be much cheaper when they could). Instead, they drive without a license to feed their families and when they get into an accident or have a health "scare," we food the bill.
Unfortunately, the system seems beyond repair at this point. Some political groups take advantage of the fear and lack of information of parts of the population to gather support for their agendas. Not even children are out of limits, and the top of the pyramid is taking advantage of the situation, throwing even more gasoline on the fire.