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Microsoft Employees Protest Work with ICE

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>Microsoft has been positioning itself as tech’s moral leader. Mr. Nadella and Microsoft’s president, Brad Smith, have publicly said they want to protect user privacy Hard to take this seriously given what Windows 10 and other new microsoft products subject users to.

^ turn off cortana and windows starts to fall apart in strange and subtle ways (ie no more local search index)

Jesus is that what happened? I thought I was losing it. I’m glad I don’t spend as much time in windows anymore these days (besides some games).

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Are you ok if illegals immigrants move into your neighborhood and compete for your job? EDIT: Why am I being downvoted? I asked a legitimate question. If illegal immigrants moved into your neighborhood and affected the socioeconomic status, school ratings etc of your neighborhood, how will you react? Will you advocate for the same policies you are advocating now? I have a feeling most of the people who are supporting…

Yes. Illegal immigrants contribute more to the economy than they get out of it.

What if they are taking your job. They are of course taking away someone's job.

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Is it really? Most people I know would probably contend that the illegal status of most of these people is due to flaws in our immigration system. They want this country to be a place where from all over can come to thrive if they are so motivated. The quote engraved on the Statue of Liberty comes to mind... “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teem…

Are you ok if illegals immigrants move into your neighborhood and compete for your job? EDIT: Why am I being downvoted? I asked a legitimate question. If illegal immigrants moved into your neighborhood and affected the socioeconomic status, school ratings etc of your neighborhood, how will you react? Will you advocate for the same policies you are advocating now? I have a feeling most of the people who are supporting…

If someone wants to do my job better than me for the same or less money, they're welcome to it.

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>Microsoft has been positioning itself as tech’s moral leader. Mr. Nadella and Microsoft’s president, Brad Smith, have publicly said they want to protect user privacy Hard to take this seriously given what Windows 10 and other new microsoft products subject users to.

^ turn off cortana and windows starts to fall apart in strange and subtle ways (ie no more local search index)

With or without Cortana windows 10 search is horrible. The fact that XYZ will come as the first result for XY but will dissapear when you search XYZ is the noticeably horrible ux I've seen since the Zune.

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Which A) is not what the Statue of Liberty is about, it's about Liberty B) was added well after the statue's construction and C) is a poem, not a law of the USA. If you really knew what Emma Lazarus's (EDIT: wrong last name used at first) views were, it might give you pause... (hint: she hated Ashkenazi Jews and saw them as low-class)

I'm having a hard time grasping the point of this comment. Statues are put in place generally to commemorate the history, culture, and/or values of a people; I don't recall claiming it has any legal implications. Also, I am fairly well versed in Emma Goldman's writings, and she has said much with which I agree. The poem, however, was written by Emma Lazarus.

You're right, I confused the two last names, and corrected it.

We have had some quote it as if were law, which I why I mentioned that. It isn't law, nor is it a foundational/original view of the USA dating from the Revolutionary War.

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Defending our democracy? How about the majorities that passed the immigration laws that are being enforced? What does democracy have to do with the right to immigrate to America without permission? Edit: I’m not commenting on the propriety of the Microsoft employees’ actions. They are clearly free to urge their employer to refrain from participating in something they disagree with. That is absolutely part of what liv…

We have to defend democracy by overthrowing our democratically elected government and ignoring our Constitution. What part of that is confusing?

Democratically elected by Russia.

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Applying for asylum is a crime?

Applying for asylum at a port of entry is not a crime, and none of those people are being detained or separated from their kids. But crossing into the country illegally is a crime, even if you subsequently request asylum. Edit: Someone1234, I would reply directly but I’m rate limited. The incident you’re pointing out is more nuanced than that. To combat human trafficking, we separate children from adults we suspect m…

Are asylum seekers necessarily aware of that distinction?

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>... [We] recognize the grave responsibility that those creating powerful technology have to ensure what they build is used for good, and not for harm. I don't read hear or read this sentiment nearly as often as I would like. Good on these folks for stepping up.

What's "good" is very subjective.

Certainly transforming the US into Mexico 2.0 through mass immigration isn't inherently "good" in the eyes of many Americans. The demographic changes come with decline in almost ALL areas of life. Does anyone really expect the US to perform at the same level when you increasingly replace the European population with a Mestizo one?

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Defending our democracy? How about the majorities that passed the immigration laws that are being enforced? What does democracy have to do with the right to immigrate to America without permission? Edit: I’m not commenting on the propriety of the Microsoft employees’ actions. They are clearly free to urge their employer to refrain from participating in something they disagree with. That is absolutely part of what liv…

The immigration laws don’t have to be enforced in these clearly abusive ways. A majority of Americans think that.

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Yes. Illegal immigrants contribute more to the economy than they get out of it.

What if they are taking your job. They are of course taking away someone's job.

It's not "your" job. It belongs to your employer, and they can give it to whomever they decide.

Although, granted, they can't legally give it to an illegal immigrant, they can still legally not let you keep it.

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