So this seems to have happened because Youtube wants The Blender Foundation to agree to have their videos monetized. I'm not clear if they want that because of bogus copyright claims, EU legislation etc, or just because they favour making money over not making money? Edit: Either way looking for alternatives seems like a good idea.
Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide
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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, they picked the wrong org to gamble on strongarming in the case of Blender. Instead of getting them to monetize they've just compelled Blender to move platforms.
Other than unlikely damage to the total user critical mass effect, what does YouTube potentially lose from kicking blender out?
Nothing. They gain by use of a chilling effect: most of the seemingly negative actions and expectations they're known for, tend to rebound in favor of their core business.
It's all meant to be Logan and Jake Paul and PewDiePie and whatever will drive low-quality mass views so long as the viewer quality isn't so low that they're losing advertisers. At a scale like this, it's just pure statistics.
This is not damage. This is benefit, in terms of getting other content creators in line. The message is clear.
Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And no one whines that they don't get free conference admission or airline tickets or printer paper or whatever Those are terrible analogies. YouTube offers free hosting with the ability to opt out of monetizing your videos -- features that they will apparently punish you for using. That is absurdly user-hostile.
Meh. And we've come full circle. It seems to my eyes that they only "punish" you for not advertising if you have the means to pay other expenses but want to freeload on youtube specifically. And I don't see why I should care about that. It's very likely that Blender is going to have the same problem with Dailymotion and Vimeo too. No one wants to (or has the means) to be a dumping ground for hosting other people's co…
You're missing the point. Why offer the option to opt out of ads at all other than to bait-and-switch?
Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide
#64I've been meaning to cancel for a while. Just got around to it and it felt amazing.
Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide
#65Wait, am I reading this right? If you're a particularly popular channel, you're required to monetize and YT will block you if you don't? That's ridiculous, and it's totally shooting yourself in the foot. The vast majority of creators with many views do want to monetize, YouTube is losing almost nothing by allowing people not to if they choose. They must be really be desparate for revenue over there.
Wait, a company wants to make money on its free service? Shocking.
'free' service
Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
For free? YouTube gives Google _unparalleled_ access to what we like, how we think, what we want, ... It's the best profiling tool there is. Let's not say "for free" when we are paying a price for it already.
Yes, for free. You can create an account and upload as many videos as you want without paying absolutely anything. Even more, without handing over any personal information. But hey, feel free to upload your videos elsewhere.
You're giving them content they can monetize, so it's no wonder they will let you give it to them for free.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a fellow paying YouTube Red customer, this hadn't occurred to me. I shall do so as well.
As a fellow paying YouTube Premium user I'm glad that YouTube is taking this step to insure the long-term viability of the platform I pay to support.
You like being charged for access to videos and then videos being removed because the content creators didn't pay YouTube as well?
What happened to people liking technical solutions because they could remove rent seeking middle men?
Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide
#68Wait, am I reading this right? If you're a particularly popular channel, you're required to monetize and YT will block you if you don't? That's ridiculous, and it's totally shooting yourself in the foot. The vast majority of creators with many views do want to monetize, YouTube is losing almost nothing by allowing people not to if they choose. They must be really be desparate for revenue over there.
If its not monetized, then YouTube has no way to make money off the views; no way to recoup the costs associated with hosting those videos. History, morality, and good will aside, its in their financial best interest to not allow videos which are not monetized.
Then they run the risk of ostracizing creators. Creators bring viewers to YouTube. In many ways YT is like Pandora. The "product" of YouTube is other people's creativity.
YT is free to block whatever content they want for whatever reason. However, creators will follow the path of least resistance and viewers will follow creators.
Push the creators away and there will be no viewers to show ads to.
Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
I stopped using the YouTube site long ago. I only subscribe via Feedly/RSS and watch the videos I want directly with 99% no ads even without an adblocker via the embeded video player.
Where do the creators you follow host their videos?
Not op, but op may be using the Youtube Subscription RSS feed. Go to https://www.youtube.com/subscription_manager and scroll to the bottom. You should see a section labeled "Export to RSS readers".
Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide
#70Why not switch to Vimeo, a well-established and stable video hosting platform? There's no advertising and no shenanigans of ads being forced on your video. The hosting is not free, but at least you have control over your videos and privacy issues.
Peertube, d.tube, and other federated/decentralized streaming service are really not that reliable, at least from my experience.