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AI at Google: our principles
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#102New hot job title: AI ombudsman.
This is Google you are talking about. It's more like hot new script: ai_ombudsman.py
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#103>2. Avoid creating or reinforcing unfair bias. They DO realize that the YouTube recommendation algorithm is a political bias reinforcement machine, right? Like, I think it’s fun to talk trash on google because they’re in an increably powerful position, but this one isn’t even banter.
I'm convinced that Google is touting its' 'principles' with a hackneyed blog post probably written by some PR flack.
As an American, I'm disappointed, and positively enraged by the hubris on display here. A bunch of (non-US) employees have pressured Google and therefore compromised the national interests of the United States.
See this for an alternative viewpoint: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-per...
It's high time these companies are regulated and their malfeasance reined in by the United States.
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#104The fact that “make money” isn’t on the list means that you can’t believe any of it. Also point 5 is an outright, blatant falsehood given Google’s track record and indeed entire business model.
This is clearly the only reasonable response to these 'principles'. Google must have a strong employee presence here.
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#105So, I'm all for giving someone the benefit of the doubt if they have a change of heart upon reconsidering an issue, but this coming after the fact rings a bit hollow to me. I think the only principle at play here is that it became a PR issue. That's fine, but let's be honest about it. Early emails between Google execs framed this project only in terms of revenue and potential PR backlash. As far as we're aware, there…
And now someone else will easily pick up the contract, and Google loses any ability at all to influence it. Perhaps they could have reduced civilian casualities more so than whoever picks it up.
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#106> We believe that AI should:
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> 1. Be socially beneficial.
> 2. Avoid creating or reinforcing unfair bias.
> 3. Be built and tested for safety.
> 4. Be accountable to people.
> 5. Incorporate privacy design principles.
> 6. Uphold high standards of scientific excellence.
> 7. Be made available for uses that accord with these principles.
While I like this list a lot, I don't understand why this is AI-specific, and not software-specific. Is Google using the word "AI" to mean "software"?
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, now you are talking about philosophical questions. - Is pursuing an AI that kills 10 bad guys but saves 20 good ones overall bad? - Is pursuing an AI that doesn't kill anyone but pushes us to watch ads and lose our life on youtube overall bad?
I don't know about you, but I know that I do not want an AI "solving" the trolley problem in real world situations.
How is that better than a human solving it?
The trolley problem is unsolvable; that's the point.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pretty well, all things considered.
Elaborate?
Well I’m guessing everyone will have a slightly different viewpoint, but my use of google services over the last 15? years has not had me feeling they’ve done anything evil to me.
Yes I’m sure they have a huge swell of data about me, but so far the use of that data has not caused me any suffering, or pain, or misfortune etc.
“Don’t be evil” is quite a poignant statement. If they were to say, “don’t do bad things” then I wouldn’t have quite the defence. But no, for at least me, a sample size of one, they have not been evil.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I don't build these gas chambers, somebody else will, so i might as well pocket the money. You don't see a problem with that position?
Ah, yes, extrapolate directly to the holocaust.
It extrapolates pretty well, and this is the problem, because if you stop early at merely "the world (political and economical) dominance" everything should be fine, right?
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#110>2. Avoid creating or reinforcing unfair bias. They DO realize that the YouTube recommendation algorithm is a political bias reinforcement machine, right? Like, I think it’s fun to talk trash on google because they’re in an increably powerful position, but this one isn’t even banter.
I'm convinced that Google is touting its' 'principles' with a hackneyed blog post probably written by some PR flack. As an American, I'm disappointed, and positively enraged by the hubris on display here. A bunch of (non-US) employees have pressured Google and therefore compromised the national interests of the United States. See this for an alternative viewpoint: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary…
Certainly many US employees were against it.
Also Google is a global organization. I don’t believe that corporations should primarily serve the interests of their government, they should serve their users and reflect the attitudes of their employees.