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AI at Google: our principles

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Re: AI at Google: our principles

#11

Post by ironjunkie »

Isamu wrote: post #6

> AI applications we will not pursue [...] Technologies that cause or are likely to cause overall harm. [...] Weapons or other technologies This statement will have zero impact on subsequent sensational headlines or posters here claiming Google is making killbots.

Well, now you are talking about philosophical questions.

- Is pursuing an AI that kills 10 bad guys but saves 20 good ones overall bad?

- Is pursuing an AI that doesn't kill anyone but pushes us to watch ads and lose our life on youtube overall bad?

Re: AI at Google: our principles

#12

Post by DrNuke »

I do not know, really... if not them, someone else will do however. Google has a competitive advantage (they can hire & pay well the smartest minds on Earth) and is letting it go? EDIT: going to be even more controversial but needs to be said that Google just can’t stay neutral here imho, they either work for autonomus killing machines or against them in order to preserve their market position and brand

Re: AI at Google: our principles

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Post by fatjokes »

DrNuke wrote: post #12

I do not know, really... if not them, someone else will do however. Google has a competitive advantage (they can hire & pay well the smartest minds on Earth) and is letting it go? EDIT: going to be even more controversial but needs to be said that Google just can’t stay neutral here imho, they either work for autonomus killing machines or against them in order to preserve their market position and brand

I think Google's point isn't that it can't be done, or even that it shouldn't be done, but rather simply they won't do it.

Re: AI at Google: our principles

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Post by DrNuke »

fatjokes wrote: post #14
DrNuke wrote: post #12

I do not know, really... if not them, someone else will do however. Google has a competitive advantage (they can hire & pay well the smartest minds on Earth) and is letting it go? EDIT: going to be even more controversial but needs to be said that Google just can’t stay neutral here imho, they either work for autonomus killing machines or against them in order to preserve their market position and brand

I think Google's point isn't that it can't be done, or even that it shouldn't be done, but rather simply they won't do it.

Ok but what if it does not make sense from a business perspective in the mid or long term?

Re: AI at Google: our principles

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Post by finnthehuman »

>2. Avoid creating or reinforcing unfair bias.

They DO realize that the YouTube recommendation algorithm is a political bias reinforcement machine, right?

Like, I think it’s fun to talk trash on google because they’re in an increably powerful position, but this one isn’t even banter.

Re: AI at Google: our principles

#19

Post by fredley »

ironjunkie wrote: post #11
Isamu wrote: post #6

> AI applications we will not pursue [...] Technologies that cause or are likely to cause overall harm. [...] Weapons or other technologies This statement will have zero impact on subsequent sensational headlines or posters here claiming Google is making killbots.

Well, now you are talking about philosophical questions. - Is pursuing an AI that kills 10 bad guys but saves 20 good ones overall bad? - Is pursuing an AI that doesn't kill anyone but pushes us to watch ads and lose our life on youtube overall bad?

Can you really build an AI that can identify bad guys? What if it's a good guy in the wrong uniform?

Re: AI at Google: our principles

#20

Post by joshuamorton »

DrNuke wrote: post #17
fatjokes wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Google's point isn't that it can't be done, or even that it shouldn't be done, but rather simply they won't do it.

Ok but what if it does not make sense from a business perspective in the mid or long term?

That begs the question.
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