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It seems like Tesla's on the fast-track to an Uber-tier reputation.
Yeah, if any imperfect company is instantly equated with a pure evil company, then sure. Seems fair. But, then again, I can see how you'd think Tesla was pure evil too if you buy into all the endless nonsense published about them without doing any research.
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If Tesla has a branch or subsidiary or something similar in the EU, then GDPR applies regardless of where the data is actually processed or where the data subject is.
No. If you're a US citizen* doing business with a US-based company you don't have the right to request your own data, even if that company also does business in Europe. * and there are European citizen dual passport shenanigans
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> Even I don't press my brake like that when parking. You might if you thought it was the brake and the car was accelerating.
Nope. Unless they have really shitty logging intervals, which would also be a problem.
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/its-all-your-fault-the...
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Can you point to an instance where GM/Ford published a user's data in a press release to defend itself?
Are you saying that it's a bad thing for Tesla to defend itself with its collected data?
A few months ago my valet backed my brand new X into a wall in the garage. I asked Tesla for the data to help use this for insurance. At no point was Tesla possibly at fault, but they still told me that in order to get the data I would need a subpoena.
Accelerator pedal immediately went from 0% to 100%? Really? Even I don't press my brake like that when parking.
without unfettered access to the full data that Tesla has we will never know. Unlike Toyota Tesla does not seem willing to cooperate.
I am all for logging and accessibility to it but logging is only as valuable when you know the how and why of each event.
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You've proposed a reason for Tesla's reluctance to release data that Tesla itself has not used, so it's you that's bringing up unrelated arguments. Why speculate on the proprietary formats Tesla may or may not use when Tesla doesn't appear to have argued that the data was proprietary?
You're the only one talking about Tesla in this situation. I never mentioned Tesla's reluctance to release data. That's your fabrication. I'm talking about data that's incapable of being analyzed in a meaningful way without contextual / proprietary knowledge of how that data was created, is used, and is stored. In reality, I'd wager that most companies have more of that type of data than not.
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The GDPR also holds for European Tesla drivers outside the EU.
I don't believe that's true. For processors outside of the Union, it applies to "data subjects in the Union" or "monitoring [...] within the Union". https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/
Toxic decision on Tesla’s part. Yet another fire needing to be put out that never should have started in the first place. They’re really making things more difficult for themselves.
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No. If you're a US citizen* doing business with a US-based company you don't have the right to request your own data, even if that company also does business in Europe. * and there are European citizen dual passport shenanigans
If it has a US subsidiary (which is fairly likely for tax etc) then that entity has to give you your data.
Point: how is the GDPR ever going to be enforced between US citizens and US companies-with-an-EU-presence?