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FAANG, I've never seen this before! Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google?
I thought the N was Netscape, a major competitor to Microsoft (browser and server) and Google (browser)
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FAANG, I've never seen this before! Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google?
I thought the N was Netscape, a major competitor to Microsoft (browser and server) and Google (browser)
Netscape was a competitor to Microsoft in the 90s, and it has never been a competitor to Google.
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Well in this very specific context, it's hard to imagine that Microsoft will be avoiding using GitHub just because it's owned by Microsoft.
FAANG is used very generally to refer to these five companies. It's not just in this specific context. I'm wondering why Microsoft is excluded.
If you include MS, you have to also include IBM. FAMAING.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis... Some brief history refresher: - Apple + Microsoft "collaborating" on Macintosh software = Windows - IBM + Microsoft "collaborating" on OS/2 = the NT kernel, Windows NT - Sybase + Microsoft "collaborating" on Sybase SQL server = MS SQL Server - Sun + Microsoft "embracing" Java = .NET Framework "Take it with a grain of salt".
You were downvoted... What in the hell is wrong with HN users? Are they all children? These events are well within living memory for a lot of us.
A lot of people do not have a perspective on how greedy Microsoft was.
Bill Gates is one of the richest people in the world today, not by gathering in circles and singing happy songs. The guy was a monopolist.
They wanted everyone to use Microsoft Windows, code in Visual Studio, do their office work in Office, browse the web in Internet Explorer, have a Microsoft e-mail, chat using Microsoft services, and you get the idea.
And a lot of that was possible by having Windows preinstalled in new computers, and bundling software with Windows, like Internet Explorer. You could argue Apple is similar, but I do not think Apple is interested in a monopoly of the size of that planned by Microsoft.
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#545Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well in this very specific context, it's hard to imagine that Microsoft will be avoiding using GitHub just because it's owned by Microsoft.
FAANG is used very generally to refer to these five companies. It's not just in this specific context. I'm wondering why Microsoft is excluded.
I see Big Four (Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft) more often than FANG although that is obviously confusing on Wall St where that phrase usually refers to the large accounting firms. Apple is excluded because it is a hardware company not a software company although sometimes it is subbed in for one of the others, depending on who is using the phrase.
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I don't fully understand point 2. Is just making GitHub better worth $7.5 billion dollars for Microsoft? It will stay independent for this pile of cash? Why they bought it? For prestige? For me the answer is that it can't be independent for long as it was (with VCs on its back was it ever?). It will gain Live login, maybe they will integrate it so you could login with your GitHub credentials to your computer if you s…
Answers are here for you - https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github... I'm posting them here for easy ref - 1. "Second, we will accelerate enterprise developers’ use of GitHub, with our direct sales and partner channels and access to Microsoft’s global cloud infrastructure and services. " Above means - More revenue for MS. 2. "Finally, we will bring Microsoft’s developer tools and services to new…
Let’s not forget that Github came out of rails which was/is a rather SaaS oriented community, and struggled to build out an enterprise sales team that could deliver and market the on-site product to large corps. Microsoft has sales channels into almost every enterprise in the world and can sell a lot more github installations than github could by itself. Github is simply worth way more inside of Microsoft than it was outside.
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I agree, my biggest concerns are: 1. What is happening to Atom? I have tried VS code and don't really like it due to the difference in how the 2 systems are designed to work (Atom being more "plugins are king", VSCode being more "kitchen sink included by first-party"). I'd hate to see my favorite editor lose it's major backing. If MS makes a commitment to continue to develop Atom, or they work with someone else to "t…
I'm curious if Electron will get a boost of some kind now. Considering how famous/notorious it is, MS could get a hell of a lot of goodwill here if they invest in the tech.
(consumer) Skype is famously Electron based. Microsoft has already been investing heavily in the project and I think we will see them double down on their commitment now that they own GitHub.
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#548Skeptical, but not without cause.
1. Late 90's/Early 2000's, Microsoft's implementation and inclusion of CDRW/DVDRW functionality native to the OS eliminating competition from smaller companies that had pioneered the technology and was selling their software to Windows desktop users.
2. Late 90's/Early 2000's, Microsoft's implementation and development of Active Directory which not only rivaled Novell's Netware flagship product but also went against RFC's put forth by the larger community that rivaled OpenLDAP. Because of the desktop shares and users already on the Windows NT platform put thousands out of work and nearly put Novell out of business.
3. Early to mid 2000's, Microsoft moves away from already found vulnerable MSCHAP, MSCHAPV2 authentication protocols in favor of the MIT Kerberos protocol for all network authentication of users and systems in Active Directory.
Not only did this put those companies out to pasture and eliminate a large amount of revenue but the idea of stealing and idea is very bad tact. Reverse engineering code to gain a larger market share is not only dishonest but plagarism and illegal in schools. Why should the free economy play by a different set of rules?
People wonder why Microsoft has a bad reputation, the three things I have witnessed over the years in conjunction with the snatching up smaller companies and parting them out make me and I am sure many others very skeptical of their desire to snatch up the worlds largest source code repository.
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What would be wrong having a Microsoft account to log in exactly? They aren't getting any more information from you then they have currently purchased. I remember when I had a YouTube account, a blogger account and a Google account and I am glad I just use one google account myself.
Microsoft accounts are a trainwreck... I've got at least three or four of them all with the same email address, and despite years of effort to link them together and consolidate, I still have to use all of them to log into different services and access different resources. The permissioning on things like Azure and VSTS doesn't make a lick of sense.
> Microsoft accounts are a train wreck.
Now you put it like this, I realize I suffer from this too. The UX of having accounts in the Microsoft ecosystem sucks severely.
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I actually just made a bet with a friend on whether or not they'd switch GitHub over to Microsoft logins. My strong bet (that I put money behind) is that they won't. They're specifically acquiring this to win over developers and community, and they should hopefully know from the Skype transition how much negative perception that granted them. Their absolute best bet is to sit on GitHub, feed it money, offer the paid…
> I actually just made a bet with a friend on whether or not they'd switch GitHub over to Microsoft logins Did your bet stipulate a time frame? I think the odds of this go up considerably after a honeymoon period of 2-4 years.
Yeah, we went with three years (after close of the acquisition). If we didn't have a timeframe, I'd never get paid. :O I'd be inclined to pay my friend back if it happened sometime reasonably thereafter though.