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Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by zilchers »

adrianmalacoda wrote: post #255
Klathmon wrote: post #64

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I agree, my biggest concerns are: 1. What is happening to Atom? I have tried VS code and don't really like it due to the difference in how the 2 systems are designed to work (Atom being more "plugins are king", VSCode being more "kitchen sink included by first-party"). I'd hate to see my favorite editor lose it's major backing. If MS makes a commitment to continue to develop Atom, or they work with someone else to "t…

Fellow Atom user here. According to Lee Dohm, Open Source Community Manager at GitHub, "Atom remains key to GitHub. Our product roadmap is set, and the team will continue all of their work." [0] [0] https://github.com/atom/atom/issues/17454#issuecomment-39442...

I actually really like Visual Studio Code, I could imagine a great product coming out of the marriage of Code and Atom. I could also imagine infighting killing Atom, but I’ll try to be optimistic.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by thiagocsf »

kolpa wrote: post #183

> PS: I’ll be doing an AMA on Reddit in the next few days, I hope to see you there! It's a bit of shame that that's the location of choice for hosting an AMA. The AMA subreddit is good, but it's trapped in the toxic cesspool that is Reddit overall.

What would you suggest instead?

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by Marysville »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #441
jonny_eh wrote: post #356

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Especially those that compete with MS or their subsidiaries. But then again, Netflix uses AWS, so who knows?

I don’t understand your comment about Netflix using AWS. AFAIR, Netflix is a reference customer for AWS. Every re:invent is full of Netflix people. Care to elaborate?

Netflix is paying money to its competitor. i.e. Amazon Prime Video.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by electronvolt »

com2kid wrote: post #431
electronvolt wrote: post #286

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Yeah, which is hosted on Azure, a data center that Microsoft owns and employs guards for, and secured behind our standard corporate authentication. :) (Source: I work at Microsoft, near the VSTS team.)

> Yeah, which is hosted on Azure, a data center that Microsoft owns and employs guards for, and secured behind our standard corporate authentication. :) Way back when, Microsoft used to host a bunch of auth servers for banks. A friend of mine mentioned an armed guard in front of the data center for that particular service. I've worked on teams at MS where there was a (non-armed) guard checking everyone who got off th…

Yeah, all I was really saying was that the grandparent's comment and the parent's comment weren't in opposition.

Microsoft owns the data center the code lives in and certainly takes care of physical security.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by throwaway2048 »

BigChiefSmokem wrote: post #460
JohnL4 wrote: post #289

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Is the Open Invention Network still a thing? MS still hasn't joined, and is still using patents as a weapon, apparently. https://www.infoworld.com/article/3042699/open-source-tools/...

Doesn't the OIN secretly sell some of its patents to non-members and non-licensees? Sounds very strategic for the companies involved and this can lead to some serious consequences for any company who is targeted by an OIN patent.

any sources for this?

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by spydum »

jodrellblank wrote: post #323
SiVal wrote: post #304

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That's amazing. Contrast that to my friend who works on code at Apple that's so guarded that he can't even access it from Apple HQ. He has to travel to his office in an unmarked Apple bldg several miles from HQ (in an unmarked van) and access the code from inside the bldg. Any attempt to work on his code outside that bldg, on the Apple employee shuttle for example, will result in immediate firing with possible crimin…

LOL-worthy and yet, which company released an OS update with an open root account with no password, patched it in a way that broke file sharing, then a couple of months later released an update with another password bypass bug? Hobbling people with security theatre isn't begetting good or secure code.

Opsec and AppSec usually handled by different teams :)

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by throwaway2048 »

BigChiefSmokem wrote: post #164
craftyguy wrote: post #69

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None of those are meaningful contributions to existing platforms/projects that MS does not own outright. They're throwing code of the wall. MS's contributions to git are very light. Edit: clarify my point.

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/membership/members/ Microsoft has had a vested interest in Git and Open-Source for a while now.

The linux foundation is nothing better than a PR front, they have members like Allwinner and VMWare who straight up refuse to stop violating the GPL license of the linux kernel, and face no consequences.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by est »

trynewideas wrote: post #195
Klathmon wrote: post #64

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I agree, my biggest concerns are: 1. What is happening to Atom? I have tried VS code and don't really like it due to the difference in how the 2 systems are designed to work (Atom being more "plugins are king", VSCode being more "kitchen sink included by first-party"). I'd hate to see my favorite editor lose it's major backing. If MS makes a commitment to continue to develop Atom, or they work with someone else to "t…

I'm more interested in how companies with private repos on GitHub react.

Did you know Gitlab.com was hosted on Azure?

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by timv »

CydeWeys wrote: post #443
ionforce wrote: post #363

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FAANG, I've never seen this before! Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google?

I don't understand by what metric Netflix is included but Microsoft is excluded. It should really be FAAMG, or maybe FAMANG.

Well in this very specific context, it's hard to imagine that Microsoft will be avoiding using GitHub just because it's owned by Microsoft.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by Marysville »

dorfsmay wrote: post #306
hannasanarion wrote: post #276

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That's not just a scummy breach of trust though, that's a blatantly illegal breach of trust. Source code is a trade secret. Copying it without permission is corporate espionage. People would go to jail if they tried. You are asserting that Microsoft's intentions are criminal.

I'm 100% sure that this is not their intention... But can you guarantee that this is not going to happen in the future? All it takes is one rogue employee, and it could have devastating irreversible effects on a small startup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A9r%C3%B4me_Kerviel#Unaut... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Leeson#Downfall

What's stopping a Github or Gitlab or Atlassian employee from going rogue? That's not an MS specific problem.
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