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Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by 0x0 »

galad87 wrote: post #44
0x0 wrote: post #33

Wow, they are DEPRECATING OpenGL from both macOS and iOS: https://developer.apple.com/macos/whats-new/ This is in addition to last year's announcement that "macOS High Sierra is the last version of macOS to run 32bit apps without compromise " I wonder if we will soon see a new lineage of Macbooks fitted with Apple-specific arm64 chips. The most scary thought is if UIKit-on-macOS starts requiring Developer ID entitlem…

The writing was on the wall since they stopped updating it (OpenGL) 5 years ago.

True, but it'd be a shame to lose out on the library of legacy software and games.

Edit: and XQuartz (X11) with OpenGL comes in handy once in a while too...

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by bwang29 »

I feel the system wide dark mode is the next step from Night Shift mode to acknowledge or encourage people to work more toward late night/evenings. Eye fatigue has been one of the reason my body reminds me to go to sleep, now I can maybe deal with some more emails before I head to bed.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by ljm »

janlukacs wrote: post #25
dewey wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you seen the part where you can easily port iOS apps to macOS that was probably in the making for a few years? That's pretty huge for a developer conference. Changes to the app store to make discovery easier and feature more developer stories also have a huge impact on Mac/iOS developers and their revenue.

Is that an OS update? Do you really need iOS apps on the Mac? How about having decent apps in the actual native apps store?

I would assume it's more about making it more convenient for developers to build an app for iOS and macOS using similar frameworks and APIs, without depending on React Native or just throwing Electron and the web stack at the problem. From my own minimal experience you have to pull in a fair few dependencies or do quite a lot more work if you want a more modern look for a native Mac app.

Additionally, if I want to bring an iOS app to the Mac, then it'd be great to not have to figure out the Cocoa version of a certain UIKit view and then rewrite all of the code to fit.

I can't imagine this would translate to some next-level version of universal binaries, but who knows what it'll be like in a few years.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by matthewmacleod »

jumelles wrote: post #6

I'm continually amazed at how much Apple hypes up the most pointless, useless, basic things. This is a new version of a major operating system, and we get... the desktop organized by filetype. A built-in stock application. How is an App Store update considered part of an OS update?

What on earth are you complaining about?

It's an annual, incremental OS release. We're not talking about multi-year developments or grand visions. There are a bunch of features that look quite nice from a usability standpoint, some improvements to the App Store, and a crack at a unified development platform for iOS and macOS. Those seem like a pretty reasonable set of features to roll out, and no doubt they'll be accompanies by the usual array of more minor improvements.

The only thing we should really be hoping for is that they focus more on reducing the number of bugs, performance issues and security vulnerabilities.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by pknopf »

dewey wrote: post #45
some_account wrote: post #37

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There is so much more they could do to make it be a real developers system. They could make the system modern. Right now there is more desktop innovation in KDE for gods sake.

What are you missing that doesn't make it a "real developer system"? Can't say I ever got stopped by macOS. It mostly stays out of the way.

Developing on Mac? Not so bad.

Developing for Mac? Abismal.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by janlukacs »

erichurkman wrote: post #49
janlukacs wrote: post #14

WWDC 2018, from underwhelming to boring. I will lose my mind if i hear *oji one more time. Will they ever stop with this nonsense? Favicons in Safari? It took them 6 years for the browser to remember the zoom setting per site, now we have the luxury of having favicons.

I wonder if they'll ever fix `localStorage` in private Safari windows. It breaks countless sites and Safari is the only browser to block it.

I love Safari, it's my main browser - but there are so many small annoying things that take ages to fix it's just sad.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by matthewmacleod »

janlukacs wrote: post #50
wlesieutre wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Decent apps in the actual native store is what the UIKit port is about. It’s not iOS apps on the Mac any more than tvOS apps are iOS apps on the TV. You still need to adapt it to native UI conventions like the menu bar, you just won’t need to rebuild the entire UI from the ground up in AppKit anymore.

Let me put it another way, when was the last time you heard a user ask for an iOS app to be on the Mac? Is this what Mac users want or is it something that Apple wants?

I'm right here, as both a user and a developer, and would really like more native apps on the Mac. A unified platform to make it easier for developers to build apps across both platforms seems like an incredibly obvious win.
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