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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by pjmlp »

neves wrote: post #214
pjmlp wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nokia is pretty much alive. As for what Elop did, in case you missed the news, he only did what the Nokia board themselves asked him to do, and even gave him a bonus for achieving it.

What's is Nokia up to? I'd love to know they are doing interesting things.

With the money from Microsoft's deal, they bought Siemens part from NSN, merging it back into Nokia.

They got back many of the former mobile division employees via the partnership with HMD, currently having one of the best deals in Android devices.

Ah and Bell Labs now belongs to Nokia.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by KillcodeX »

Everyone is leaving this platform because Microsoft is a spyware OS (NSA OS). To be honest, they are going to put Malware tracking in your code. Something big is coming inside your machine..... Warning : stay away from any acquired platforms of Microsoft (LinkedIn (Resume tracking), github (project code tracking), Skype ( Voip tracking), etc.......). They can't innovate anymore, and the weak dev work for money instead of building the next big thing..... Anyway.... Gitlab is the answer

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by ptx »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #428
Lordarminius wrote: post #391

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> But "extend" hasn't happened yet. If we wait for it to happen by then it will be too late

So you're saying anytime a new technology gets embraced by anyone it's time to jump ship? That's ridiculous. Should we be abandoning email because Outlook exists? Edit: Actually, I don't think the idea of "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" even applies to buying out companies. The idea behind that phrase applies to technologies, not companies. You can't "extend" GitHub with proprietary tech, it was never an open source te…

GitHub is to git as Outlook is to e-mail and as Internet Explorer is to the web.

As for how EEE applies to this situation: The situation is consistent with an EEE strategy currently being in the "embrace" phase. It's also consistent with a "embrace, be nice, create win-win outcomes" strategy, but that is not usually Microsoft's modus operandi.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by bigtones »

TAForObvReasons wrote: post #588
ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #355

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> Seeing GitHub acquired, I’d speculate that Gitlab will go that route sooner or later. Bingo. It's bizarre to hear people stampeding to GitLab when they're subject to the same financial and revenue pressures as GitHub or any other business. Somebody's paying for those servers and bandwidth and that somebody is expecting a return on their investment.

The difference is that Gitlab has publicly stated, from the beginning, that the goal is an IPO: > Stay independent so we can preserve our values. Since we took external investment we need a liquidity event. To stay independent we want that to be an IPO instead of being acquired. https://about.gitlab.com/strategy/

This is such bull. They are backed by Google Ventures and Khosla Ventures who would vote with their preferential shares to sell GitLab for $7.5 Billion dollars without question. They're in the exact same bucket as GitHub except no where near as successful.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by Kudos »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #559
Kudos wrote: post #493

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Whatever happens to Gitlab, you have the option of hosting the open source edition yourself. If they get acquired by Oracle in the morning, a fork could conceivably rise to take its place.

> Whatever happens to Gitlab, you have the option of hosting the open source edition yourself. The whole _point_ of Github was that you didn't have to host anything yourself. Just create an account and, bam, off you go. On top of that, even if you did want to host Gitlab yourself, it's "open core", not open source. You'd lose a ton of functionality.

> The whole _point_ of Github was that you didn't have to host anything yourself. Just create an account and, bam, off you go.

So, just like gitlab.com?

> On top of that, even if you did want to host Gitlab yourself, it's "open core", not open source. You'd lose a ton of functionality.

That functionality is geared towards enterprise. If you are one, you should be doing your own risk evaluation. If not, you're probably fine with the open source edition.

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Post by blub »

Delmania wrote: post #582
codedokode wrote: post #547

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Telemetry and analytics is a spyware. Let me give you an example. Let's say that Windows collects information on which applications were run and how much time they were used. Now let's say there is a competitor to Microsoft that uses Windows with telemetry option. Even if the data is anonymous, Microsoft can filter it by range of competitor's IP addresses. Then by stuyding the list of used applications they can learn…

You do realize that by posting that link, you contradicted yourself? How many Microsoft be spying on you if they write articles detailing what data is collected? If you don't like data collection, then don't use Windows 10. Plenty of Microsoft tools work on macOS and Linux. But don't accuse them of spying on the user when they have made efforts to be transparent about it.

What you said makes no sense. Talking about doing something is the same as not doing something?!

There's a reason the GDPR requires explicit opt-in: companies are expert at making their spyware look harmless and know that most people won't bother to change the defaults or won't understand what's happening.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by yzmtf2008 »

sanbor wrote: post #422

This is a wake up call. Too many things are relying on Github right now. Microsoft was part of the PRISM program. If Microsoft shares SSL certs with NSA they could do MITM attacks. What if in some very specific cases you download dependencies from GitHub and they give you a different version with malicious code? It's the NSA. They could be smart enough to only deploy those attacks on production servers were nobody is…

"The NSA is after me" should be your least point of concern in evaluating a product to buy.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by spacenick88 »

cesarb wrote: post #166
digitalsushi wrote: post #78

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I am not feeling extremely concerned, since every developer has almost or exactly an identical copy of the repository in at least one location, and can push that entire repository to another location with two commands. This would probably be the most difficult genie to put back into a bottle.

The issue is with the issues, which are not cloned together with the repository (and pull requests, while there's the trick of using --mirror to also clone the pull requests, the comments aren't cloned).

But since they need to be GDPR compliant there needs to be a way to export those and I'd think there probably is already.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by cobalt »

Nullabillity wrote: post #353
Totoradio wrote: post #23

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I can understand those concerns, but what can they do to convince you they have changed?

* Drop Windows and contribute to WINE * Drop OOXML and make ODF the default format * Drop the patents * Drop the telemetry * Drop Xbox * Drop DirectX * Drop the cloud garbage * Drop or open MSVC * Drop or open Edge * Actually open .NET

so microsoft should just shut down the company?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by bigtones »

ecoqba wrote: post #464
strogonoff wrote: post #305

Seeing GitHub acquired, I can’t help but imagine that Gitlab would go that route sooner or later. Their free offering is even more extensive than GitHub’s, and I don’t think there’s visibility into whether their revenue from paid plans is enough to offset that. Since becoming backed by a major player is both a blessing (cash reserves to fuel the free offering!) and a curse (drive to increase shareholder value could g…

One minor difference is that Gitlab is open source, you could fork it and run it privately if Gitlab ever gets acquired.

GitLab is not completely open source - it's only open core.

https://about.gitlab.com/2016/07/20/gitlab-is-open-core-gith...

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