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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by forgottenpass »

I look at SoureForge's fall, and of all the possible futures for GitHub, is this really that bad? GitHub has been on a track to sell and/or monetize more aggressively for years. Of everyone that could afford GitHub, Microsoft has the money on hand to spend a bit of time figuring out a sustainable business model that doesn't run everyone off, and has doubled down on buying developer good will in the recent years.

My more personal take is: if you hate Microsoft's track record, you should have every other big software company at least as much. Were there really better realistic possibilities for GitHub?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by ewzimm »

netsec_burn wrote: post #111

I still see Microsoft's predictable behavior in 2018. I have a friend who owns a Surface, and I was thinking it would be useful to put Linux on it (it was older ARM hardware). Well you can't, it's a Surface RT and Microsoft not only locks the bootloader but it also only runs Microsoft approved apps. That's their endgame whenever possible. Apparently people didn't like having fully locked down computers and they disco…

You still see Microsoft's predictable behavior in 2018 by looking at a discontinued product from 2012-2014? I think that's evidence that there has been a shift, and support for Linux has improved significantly since then.

Of course, if the user's motivation for using Linux is in protest against Microsoft, this won't matter, but for those who work in multiple platforms, Microsoft seems to have the most comprehensive vision of computing: not tied to any particular technology or license but fully integrated and interoperable. This is a good attitude worth supporting, even if you might object to some of their other policies. We're moving toward the era of ubiquitous computing where there's a single ecosystem with multiple technologies powering an integrated whole.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by [deleted] »

mkirklions wrote: post #124
bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.

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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by dingo_bat »

mcny wrote: post #35
scarface74 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So which company would you rather buy Github? GitHub wasn't profitable. Would you rather it just disappear?

I must ask, if it wasn't profitable on Sunday what changes today?

What's changed is that their new owner doesn't care.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by koyote »

nileshtrivedi wrote: post #48
Totoradio wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can understand those concerns, but what can they do to convince you they have changed?

(1) Make it easy for alternative OS to run on Surface/Windows-certified devices: Both x86 and ARM. (2) Support OpenDocumentFormat in their office apps. Still remember how they corrupted the ISO certification process by creating OOXML (which is just a wrapper over binary blobs produced by MS-Office) (3) Stop suing Android OEM's for patent licenses

What do you mean by 'wrapper over binary blobs'?

I know the old .doc format was basically a memory dump of the document; but how does OXML relate to that?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by cesarb »

digitalsushi wrote: post #78
ulkesh wrote: post #20

The real question everyone should be asking is whether Microsoft is trustworthy, cognizant, and honorable enough to be the steward of such a major player that facilitates a large portion of open source software. This has me very concerned for the open source community.

I am not feeling extremely concerned, since every developer has almost or exactly an identical copy of the repository in at least one location, and can push that entire repository to another location with two commands. This would probably be the most difficult genie to put back into a bottle.

The issue is with the issues, which are not cloned together with the repository (and pull requests, while there's the trick of using --mirror to also clone the pull requests, the comments aren't cloned).

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by distances »

SSLy wrote: post #118
distances wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Have they not killed Nokia or ruined Skype? I don't think one can say they killed Nokia. Nokia's phone business was basically doomed after Android gained traction, and Microsoft just helped the company to pivot by overpaying for that part of the business, while leaving Nokia with everything that actually was making money.

Nokia engineers wanted to move to Android, but the M̶S̶ ̶M̶o̶l̶e̶ then current CEO made a prikaz to go with Windows Phone.

I think this was a better outcome for Nokia. They didn't make their own components like Samsung does, so they'd probably now be in a position similar to HTC and Sony. They would have faced years of painful, expensive downsizing instead of a (retrospectively) good payout that assumed the liabilities too.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by heartbreak »

ksec wrote: post #108

GitHub - $160M Recurring Revenue in 2016... sometimes I am amazed how they got to the $7.5B figures. I wonder what happen to Atom Editor. Although I think most are using Visual Studio Code anyway, so may be it make sense to marge the man power. I wonder if they would make Coding ( Visual Studio Code ), Code Hosting ( GitHub ), Deploy ( Azure ) all seamless. Surely now Microsoft has the incentive to make Ruby Rails a…

> Coding ( Visual Studio Code )

Both the "real" IDE, Visual Studio, and VS Code already have solid git and Github integration.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by ninkendo »

Totoradio wrote: post #23
codetrotter wrote: post #15

> And Microsoft is all-in on open source. We have been on a journey with open source, and today we are active in the open source ecosystem, we contribute to open source projects, and some of our most vibrant developer tools and frameworks are open source. When it comes to our commitment to open source, judge us by the actions we have taken in the recent past, our actions today, and in the future. It’s a fair point bu…

I can understand those concerns, but what can they do to convince you they have changed?

To me? Almost nothing. Some of the the things they've done are pretty much a "life sentence" for ill will.
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