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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by colemannugent »

mrmyers wrote: post #389
scarface74 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So which company would you rather buy Github? GitHub wasn't profitable. Would you rather it just disappear?

Honestly? Google. For me, it's not about whose the bigger scarier influence, or who does more evil. It's just based on how practically I see either turning out. =Microsoft Acquisition= For a few months to a year, everything is mostly the same, until new features start happening. It starts with something like annotations on particular regions of code, with say all the annotations for the codebase stored in an extra fi…

This is how I see things playing out as well. GitHub starting to behave like the MS Office suite is something straight out of a nightmare. I hope so much that we are wrong.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by sanbor »

This is a wake up call. Too many things are relying on Github right now.

Microsoft was part of the PRISM program. If Microsoft shares SSL certs with NSA they could do MITM attacks. What if in some very specific cases you download dependencies from GitHub and they give you a different version with malicious code?

It's the NSA. They could be smart enough to only deploy those attacks on production servers were nobody is going to manually review npm packages.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by wilsonnb »

sGatling1788 wrote: post #405
wilsonnb wrote: post #293

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> It is outrageous that I have to delete half of the operating system to get something barely useable Seriously? Windows 10 is a perfectly usable OS out of the box. I can open up the included web browser and go to whatever website I want. I can install Office, Visual Studio, a Linux subsystem, VLC, a VNC client, VirtualBox, Chrome, Firefox, and every other piece of software I need without any hassle. Yes, there is so…

> Seriously? Windows 10 is a perfectly usable OS out of the box. I can open up the included web browser and go to whatever website I want. I can install Office, Visual Studio, a Linux subsystem, VLC, a VNC client, VirtualBox, Chrome, Firefox, and every other piece of software I need without any hassle. Ditto for dozens of Linux distro's. > Yes, there is something called "Bubble Witch 3 Saga" in my start menu that I d…

I'm not sure how Linux's viability as a desktop OS is relevant to Windows being usable or unusable.

I have no idea what else they've installed, just like I have no idea what MacOS or Linux install. They're all black boxes to me. I see no reason to think Windows is any worse than it's competitors.

I assume by spying, you are referring to Windows 10's telemetry. Personally, I think concerns about it are overblown and calling it spying is misleading at best. It's for diagnostic information. You can set it to only send basic diagnostic data if you so choose. I am in favor of companies collecting diagnostic information about their products to improve them.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by Delmania »

bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

> Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users?

How is it spying when they present you with a full screen detailing data collection with the option to turn it off, and have several blog posts providing details.

> Do they not engage in patents racketeering?

It's not much of an excuse, but all tech companies do this.

> Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype?

Didn't they give Windows Mobile one hell of a run? Like they tried for a decade and finally admitted defeat? And Skype, I don't know. I use it in a daily basis. It doesn't seem to be that bad.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by arrowgunz »

I really hope this acquisition is good for the developer community. Also, I can’t help but notice the fact that Tom Preston-Werner, one of the co-founders of GitHub, had turned down an offer[0] from Microsoft 10 years ago and today they’ve announced the acquisition[1] by Microsoft. They really have come a full circle. Good luck to the team at GitHub!

[0] http://tom.preston-werner.com/2008/10/18/how-i-turned-down-3...

[1] https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by dangoor »

mkirklions wrote: post #124
bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.

TypeScript and Visual Studio Code are both really nicely done open source projects. There is a fairly significant group of .NET developers out there, and that's largely open source today.

Sure, Microsoft is ultimately out to make money, but they're doing a fair bit to "help programmers" and only making money from those efforts indirectly.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by Ajedi32 »

Lordarminius wrote: post #391
Ajedi32 wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But "extend" hasn't happened yet. There's no need to cry foul until it does, because until it does there's no evidence of anything nefarious going on. "Embrace" on its own is perfectly normal and acceptable behavior. Vendor lock-in is an important concern regardless of who owns the platform you're being locked into.

> But "extend" hasn't happened yet. If we wait for it to happen by then it will be too late

So you're saying anytime a new technology gets embraced by anyone it's time to jump ship? That's ridiculous. Should we be abandoning email because Outlook exists?

Edit: Actually, I don't think the idea of "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" even applies to buying out companies. The idea behind that phrase applies to technologies, not companies. You can't "extend" GitHub with proprietary tech, it was never an open source technology in the first place.

If Microsoft starts extending git with new proprietary features that only work with GitHub, _then_ it may be time to start being concerned. As of now though, I don't see how "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" applies to this situation in the slightest.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by Ajedi32 »

dullgiulio wrote: post #407
Ajedi32 wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But "extend" hasn't happened yet. There's no need to cry foul until it does, because until it does there's no evidence of anything nefarious going on. "Embrace" on its own is perfectly normal and acceptable behavior. Vendor lock-in is an important concern regardless of who owns the platform you're being locked into.

The idea is that stuff like issues and PR comments (the added value a social coding site like GitHub provides) are the extend around pure git source management.

Fair point, but none of that is Microsoft's doing. Why are we only talking about this now?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by [deleted] »

pizza234 wrote: post #304
0xFFC wrote: post #268

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Exactly. It seems people around here are brainwashed. They are incapable of thinking objectively. You are so naive if you think Apple or Google or Facebook are not for profit! Look at how much data Google has on every single one of us. MSFT is going through a cultural change right now. It was the case for Google, to make money the had to be an advocate of open source. They didn't do that because they are good-hearted…

The expression "for profit" is indeed inappropriate. However, with the understanding of what the poster meant, it does make sense. We're talking about the company whose racket produces 10$ avg for each Android phone sold. I'm talking especially about those FAT patents, which are against the spirit of patenting ( independently of being in favour or against patents). I understand that big companies are big and internal…

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