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Microsoft acquires Github

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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by undseg »

alpos wrote: post #521
mkirklions wrote: post #463

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>Economics is not a zero-sum game. This is not what I'm implying. >I am not moving yet until I see what they do with it. If you are too late, you might not get your projects off without paying fees.

>If you are too late, you might not get your projects off without paying fees. This thinking belies a misunderstanding of how Git works. There is no way they can prevent a person from pushing to another repo and recreating whatever workflow they had on Github.

Remember that github is not just git hosting. While I cannot envision a future in which they'd actively prevent you from export/crawl out your own data, migrating your workflow is not as easy as changing your remote.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by Nullabillity »

bsg75 wrote: post #564
Nullabillity wrote: post #548

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But it's not a drop-in replacement, and it doesn't have any of the GUI bits.

Would the GUI bits be useful on a non-Windows platform?

Yes? There is lots of legacy GUI software that's stuck on it.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by merinowool »

sanbor wrote: post #422

This is a wake up call. Too many things are relying on Github right now. Microsoft was part of the PRISM program. If Microsoft shares SSL certs with NSA they could do MITM attacks. What if in some very specific cases you download dependencies from GitHub and they give you a different version with malicious code? It's the NSA. They could be smart enough to only deploy those attacks on production servers were nobody is…

They now have access to private projects so can use that to help create exploits to closed source products that are hosted on GitHub or use it to create their own products or patents.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by joering2 »

zachruss92 wrote: post #27

I am a GitLab user and have been for about 2 years now. With that being said, I think this acquisition makes a ton of sense strategically. Microsoft has really been trying to change their identity from being a stuffy close-source corporation to an open company that developers can rely on. And they have done pretty well at this. They open sourced .net, run MS SQL on Linux, and have released the WSL (which would have b…

To your very good post you forgot to add that majority of large corps with lrge projects scramble at the moment to move and delete off of their source codebase from GitHub so that Microsoft programmers dont get access to their repos and secret souce.

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

ethbro wrote: post #112
sametmax wrote: post #86

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Keeping in mind, of course, that it's an opinion, and not a fact. I happen to have the opposite opinion, although I documented it a lot more: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17225290 History does not help with trusting them. So let's wait and see. But I talked about MS PR team before, and I can already see it at work everywhere. Here, the first HN links were not warmly welcomed, so we had another one published,…

MS PR astroturfing HN is one potential cause. Another possibility is that HN members are responding favorably to MS's recent moves. Be careful not to dismiss anything that runs counter to your own narrative as fake. Like you said, we'll see!

I won't ever really forgive MicroSoft until they give us back "Clippy".

In a marketing atmosphere dominated by Siri, Alexa, Cortana, Watson.... how can MicroSoft continue to ignore the original and much beloved assistant A.I?

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Post by Delmania »

madeofpalk wrote: post #360
mkirklions wrote: post #124

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Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.

> but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'. What a strange criticism. Of course Microsoft is a for-profit company and they're doing this to make more profit - no one is of the delusion of otherwise. They didn't spend $8b out of the goodness of their heart. However, one way you make money is to do and make things pe…

I think many people forget that the word free in free software means free as in free speech, and not free as in free beer. There's no issue with a for profit company selling free software so long as they adhere to the license. It's not quite the case here, but I think too many developers forget that making money is why people start business and why people work.

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Post by topspin »

gmueckl wrote: post #543
topspin wrote: post #476

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>> And Skype, I don't know. I use it in a daily basis. It doesn't seem to be that bad. Likewise. I know they neglected the Linux client (which I used to use) for years and then replaced it with some new browser based thing. This 'ruined Skype' claim has been made several times with each Microsoft buys GitHub story. What exactly do people have in mind when they claim Skype was ruined?

The facts that I see: The new UI is absolutely counterintuitive and badly designed. The Linux version is now based on Electron and requires a ridiculous 400MB of RAM just for the login screen. It subjects the CPU to ridiculously high loads, ca. 10 times higher than before when idling (easily saturating one core periodically). It starts to jerk and studder when the chatlog reaches any realistic length, making it unusa…

> The Windows 10 client, which seems mostly identical, cannot get audio from any of my microphones.

I see. By all accounts the Electron based client is garbage. I use the 'classic' Skype client; a.k.a. Skype 7. It isn't based on Electron and works great for me with two different mics. So I guess I've missed out on all the fun with the new client.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by trgv »

sanbor wrote: post #422

This is a wake up call. Too many things are relying on Github right now. Microsoft was part of the PRISM program. If Microsoft shares SSL certs with NSA they could do MITM attacks. What if in some very specific cases you download dependencies from GitHub and they give you a different version with malicious code? It's the NSA. They could be smart enough to only deploy those attacks on production servers were nobody is…

Whenever I read these kinds of posts on this website I think of Sterling Hayden in Dr. Strangelove. (The crazy SAC commander who thinks the Russians are plotting to steal Americans' precious bodily fluids).

I understand that people don't trust the NSA/US government. And they shouldn't: the US government will always put its interests above yours and mine, and above those of allied countries.

At the same time, this stuff is bordering on parody. Very few of us (maybe none of us) need to worry about "the NSA MITM-ing our NPM packages". If you're that paranoid then you shouldn't be using github, NPM, or non-local dependencies. And of course you should be reviewing everything manually.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by merinowool »

strogonoff wrote: post #502
ecoqba wrote: post #464

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One minor difference is that Gitlab is open source, you could fork it and run it privately if Gitlab ever gets acquired.

IMO being open-source isn’t such a minor deal, because it alleviates the worst-case scenario should Gitlab ever get acquired: if theoretical new management removes or changes price tiers, you can spin up your own on short notice. That management could reduce the effort put into maintaining their CE product or take it in an unfavorable direction and cause a fork, but the immediate damage is avoidable. One possible cav…

If you have private GitHub projects Microsoft now have access to that. Hosted GitHub is pretty expensive.
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