What would your reaction be if:
1) Google bought them 2) Facebook bought them
Go!
Microsoft acquires Github
501–510 of 840 posts
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#502Seeing GitHub acquired, I can’t help but imagine that Gitlab would go that route sooner or later. Their free offering is even more extensive than GitHub’s, and I don’t think there’s visibility into whether their revenue from paid plans is enough to offset that. Since becoming backed by a major player is both a blessing (cash reserves to fuel the free offering!) and a curse (drive to increase shareholder value could g…
One minor difference is that Gitlab is open source, you could fork it and run it privately if Gitlab ever gets acquired.
IMO being open-source isn’t such a minor deal, because it alleviates the worst-case scenario should Gitlab ever get acquired: if theoretical new management removes or changes price tiers, you can spin up your own on short notice. That management could reduce the effort put into maintaining their CE product or take it in an unfavorable direction and cause a fork, but the immediate damage is avoidable.
One possible caveat is performance. While I haven’t had to deal with this personally, some people reported that Gitlab can be a bit slow to run[0]. This doesn’t matter much if you use their hosted solution (if they have cash now, they can solve it by beefing up their hardware), but could result in higher than anticipated costs of running a self-hosted instance.
[0] Speaking of anecdotal evidence easy to find on HN and elsewhere. I’m yet to see any performance benchmarks comparing self-hosted versions of Gitlab and GitHub Enterprise (the latter starting at about $2500 per year) on similar hardware. It could well be that Gitlab is the fastest product for its maturity and feature set.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#503People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…
> Haven't they killed Nokia? There wasn't much to kill, when they bought it Nokia was still clinging to Symbian and was in a freefall. They tried everything to get Windows Phone running, but were too late to the show. Also Google refused to make any kind of apps to their platform, effectively sabotaging it. > ruined Skype? Its still pretty popular. It was crap 5 years ago, but now its on par with the other big messag…
>There wasn't much to kill, when they bought it Nokia was still clinging to Symbian and was in a freefall.
Who knows what would have happened to Nokia's Device division without Microsoft's involvement, but one thing is certain - Windows Phone exclusivity solidified their demise. At least Nokia got 7 billion for their troubles, though.
>They tried everything to get Windows Phone running, but were too late to the show. Also Google refused to make any kind of apps to their platform, effectively sabotaging it.
There's a difference between trying everything and being incompetent and constantly rebooting your platform and expecting a different outcome. As for Google sabotaging their platform - Microsoft was already doing a good job of it so they didn't need help from Google. Also, Google did have a couple of apps on their platform I believe, but let's not try and blame another company for the demise of their OS when they were ultimately responsible.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#504People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…
> Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? How is it spying when they present you with a full screen detailing data collection with the option to turn it off, and have several blog posts providing details. > Do they not engage in patents racketeering? It's not much of an excuse, but all tech companies do this. > Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? Didn't they give Windows Mobile one hell of a run? Like they tr…
[deleted]
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#505People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…
> Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? They killed msn, skype was always a turd. Nokia was dead well before Microsoft got involved.
I've worked in several offices around 2013 where people happily used Skype like IRC: everyone was in a list of ~10 channels and occasionally sent private messages to coworkers. Instead of building on this, Microsoft kept pushing its unpopular business chat app (Lync) and made sure that Skype was only useful for consumers (obnoxious birthday notifications, the "snapchat redesign" etc.)
Skype could have beat Slack to the punch. Instead Microsoft lost both the business and the consumer market.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#506Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the difference is between 'constructive' and 'destructive' for-profit companies.
Microsoft is one of the most valuable companies on the planet because it is destructive? What’s that even mean?
Who taught you that high market cap equals nondestructive? Go ask for your money back.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#507I still see Microsoft's predictable behavior in 2018. I have a friend who owns a Surface, and I was thinking it would be useful to put Linux on it (it was older ARM hardware). Well you can't, it's a Surface RT and Microsoft not only locks the bootloader but it also only runs Microsoft approved apps. That's their endgame whenever possible. Apparently people didn't like having fully locked down computers and they disco…
That's because you don't appreciate hardware design. Its understandable that you might be confused because of the presence of x86 compatible hardware. There is no such thing as "ARM Laptop". All ARM devices choose their own ARM processor implementation integrated with a custom motherboard with an undocumented firmware design. Not to mention custom drivers for all of the I/O. You can't install any OS on any random hardware.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#508Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some editions are, I suppose. For many things VS Community is free though.
I don't think any editions of Visual Studio are available as Open Source software. The Community thingie is gratis but doesn't come with source code. There's VSCode (is that OSS?) but that's not an edition of VS but rather a whole different product.
VSCode is absolutely OSS.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#509Earlier quoted context omitted.
well, there was the atom editor. which now i fully expect msft to kill in favor of vs code. damn it.
How would they kill it? It's open source.
They can't really "kill" it as in destroy it, but the biggest contributors to that project were all GitHub staff. MS will most definitely redirect any staff efforts to VSCode instead.
Re: Microsoft acquires Github
#510Earlier quoted context omitted.
JetBrains products aren't Open Source. So how is embracing a closed source for-profit company anything to do with embracing Open Source?
You're asking why releasing an open source debugger has anything to do with embracing open source because there are closed source companies that are also making a debugger?
> You're asking why releasing an open source debugger has anything to do with embracing open source
I don't even understand what that means. It was never Open Source, it was part of the IDE(s). Microsoft released an update package for their IDE(s) on NuGet which JetBrains used before their native debugger was ready.
If Microsoft are to be shamed for keeping their IDE's debugger closed source then JetBrains should be equally shamed, both have closed source proprietary IDEs.