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Bitcoin backlash as ‘miners’ stress power grids in Central Washington

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Re: Bitcoin backlash as ‘miners’ stress power grids in Central Washington

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Miners could organize and generate some goodwill by offering to pay more for their power use. So that'll never happen.

Warren Buffet and other billionaires love to complain that they pay too little in taxes. They could band together and give the IRS more revenue yet they don't. If billionaires won't do the right thing, why the hell do you think small town Joe Schmoe should?

Because donating tax money doesn't fix the core problem, and will barely make a dent anyway.

Re: Bitcoin backlash as ‘miners’ stress power grids in Central Washington

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That has happened like half a dozen times before in the history of Bitcoin. Not really a sign of demise.

Bitcoin has a lot of interesting failure modes if the price falls too far. People will start taking mining hardware offline. This will result in a lot of idle capacity. There will be a number of people capable of pulling off a 51% attack. And if the hash rate falls very quickly, say 50% in a week, the difficulty adjustment will be unable to keep up. This would have all sorts of nasty effects. If the price goes to $40…

> If the price goes to $4000 it should go to zero

Will you short bitcoin then?

Re: Bitcoin backlash as ‘miners’ stress power grids in Central Washington

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It's hard to explain the levels of stupidity in this. - people trading 'coins' in the same way Pokemon / WWF kids trade cards. - thinking this is actually a long-term 'investment' strategy (well its idiots trading with each other ...) - to top it off, siphoning off electricity and giving a load of shitty excuses 'it could be like Seattle's. I don't know where to begin with this Bitcoin crap; it's gotten crazy that so…

But... but, its math, and new. So it must be cool. Right? Plus when they talk about it they get to say 'crypto' which sounds hackeresque. Humans are hilarious. Anyone here old enough to remember the dot-com boom with absurd business models, that, when questioned, got the response that you obviously just don't 'get it'. Proof of energy consuming work as currency is a sure path to environmental catastrophe.

In regards to the 'cool hysteria' and bandwagon jumping stupidity of humans, classic solutionist mistake being made by the Australian Government: Find a problem that we can solve with Blockchain!

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/turnbull-directed-dta-to-stud...

“Lots of vendors were [also] coming to government and talking about blockchain.”

Not a good way to determine expenditure...

Re: Bitcoin backlash as ‘miners’ stress power grids in Central Washington

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It's hard to explain the levels of stupidity in this. - people trading 'coins' in the same way Pokemon / WWF kids trade cards. - thinking this is actually a long-term 'investment' strategy (well its idiots trading with each other ...) - to top it off, siphoning off electricity and giving a load of shitty excuses 'it could be like Seattle's. I don't know where to begin with this Bitcoin crap; it's gotten crazy that so…

This comment applies to any revolutionary technology. Let's substitute cryptocurrencies with "the internet" in 1999: - people trading 'stocks' in the same way Pokemon / WWF kids trade cards. - thinking this is actually a long-term 'investment' strategy (well its idiots trading with each other ...) - to top it off, siphoning off capital and giving a load of shitty excuses 'it could be like Detroit at the beginning of…

The fact that you think cryptocurrencies and internet is comparable pretty much says it all.

If you had said blockchain vs internet then it might have made for a marginally plausible line of reasoning. Blockchain at least has some proven real life applications that scale.

Re: Bitcoin backlash as ‘miners’ stress power grids in Central Washington

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I last built a gaming rig in 2012 and just this January decided it was time to upgrade. It took me a bit to figure out why the hell a mid-range graphics card was $700 minimum.

Good for Xbox and PlayStation which are screaming deals right now.

Can you rob the video card out of them?

Re: Bitcoin backlash as ‘miners’ stress power grids in Central Washington

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Low-cosumption residents are then forced to live with the externalities of the generation infrastructure as well as the externalities of the behaviour induced by the electricity subsidy while benefiting the least from the subsidy - it seems like a pretty bad policy.

If it’s a public municipal utility, any dividend in lieu of price reductions, should go to the local government, not the individual residents. The local government could then issue out checks to everyone if they want, but more likely it would go towards general budget and benefit everyone.

I wouldn't be fussy about the rebate mechanism but funding a government based on energy prices can also be a tricky business - but even a poorly managed local government subsidised by energy exports is far better than local energy consumption subsidised by energy exports.

Re: Bitcoin backlash as ‘miners’ stress power grids in Central Washington

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It's hard to explain the levels of stupidity in this. - people trading 'coins' in the same way Pokemon / WWF kids trade cards. - thinking this is actually a long-term 'investment' strategy (well its idiots trading with each other ...) - to top it off, siphoning off electricity and giving a load of shitty excuses 'it could be like Seattle's. I don't know where to begin with this Bitcoin crap; it's gotten crazy that so…

People have and are using bitcoin in legal transactions. Legitimate companies accept it, legitimate customers pay using it, and legitimate products are traded for it. This is reality.

If all you want to continue posting emotional comments on how much you hate bitcoin, then by all means I wont stop you. but to attempt to dismiss the currency as a toy strikes me as delusional and a bit sad. Approach this issue (and any other) with a level head. Don't let emotions take control you like this.

Re: Bitcoin backlash as ‘miners’ stress power grids in Central Washington

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It's hard to explain the levels of stupidity in this. - people trading 'coins' in the same way Pokemon / WWF kids trade cards. - thinking this is actually a long-term 'investment' strategy (well its idiots trading with each other ...) - to top it off, siphoning off electricity and giving a load of shitty excuses 'it could be like Seattle's. I don't know where to begin with this Bitcoin crap; it's gotten crazy that so…

It's irrelevant what the customer wants to use the electricity for. The increase in electric cars is already challenging how we manage our power grids. If it's in demand, charge more.

The only correct response.

Lasing out against noise or heat I can understand, but unless electricity is being subsidized, I can't fathom the line of logic people take to justify lashing out against how someone chooses to use electricity they're pay for.

I suspect it's due to irrational hate rather than sound reasoning.

Re: Bitcoin backlash as ‘miners’ stress power grids in Central Washington

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It's hard to explain the levels of stupidity in this. - people trading 'coins' in the same way Pokemon / WWF kids trade cards. - thinking this is actually a long-term 'investment' strategy (well its idiots trading with each other ...) - to top it off, siphoning off electricity and giving a load of shitty excuses 'it could be like Seattle's. I don't know where to begin with this Bitcoin crap; it's gotten crazy that so…

Easy for you to say from the comfort of the first world, but there are other places in the world without the luxury of a functional banking system. Granted there are a lot of idiots trading, which is why I trade myself (easy prey) as it affords me living funds without having to be subordinate to poorly-implemented scrum processes and egotistical brogrammers.
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